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Norden Arms, owned by McCanns' Co-ordinating Solicitor, senior Freemason Edward Smethurst, is the worst-rated pub for hygiene out of hundreds in the Greater Manchester area

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THE SMETHURST FILES - 3: McCanns' Co-ordinating Solicitor to open new Rochdale pub on Friday 9 November

Post by RochdaleEye on 07.11.12 0:13

Edward Smethurst is becoming more and more famous in the Rochdale and Bury areas, as he adds a fifth property to the four he already owns in the beautiful, nearby, Ashworth Valley.

But this time, it's not another kitsch £2 million converted barn, it's a converted pub.

It was to have opened a month ago, but the project manager let them down a bit, and the Grand Opening has had to be postponed to 9.00pm this Friday.

It's the brand new Norden Arms:

www.nordenarms.co.uk

Already, the pub is on Facebook:

http://www.facebook.com/TheNordenArms

...with 126 having 'liked' the FB page already.

Sited at 539 Edenfield Road, Norden, Rochdale, it'll be especially handy for James Halley, the bloke who works for hard core porn company Television X and last year on his FB page announced that:

I am a 29 year old single lad from Norden in Rochdale, looking for a strong minded and sexy woman to share good times and new things with, i love my nights out and know how to make the most of them”.

He lives just over the road at No. 670, Edenfield Road.

Just who will be managing the new pub is not clear, but local rumours suggest it could be the popular 'Addy', who used to manage Ed's former haunt on Bury Road, Rochdale: the Elephant and Castle.

The Directors of the company appear to be Ed's current Secretary, Lorraine Lawrence, and a chap called Michael Stewart, who has been in and out of business in the area.

I think I said that the pub would formally open at 9.00pm this Friday.

Actually, if you're on Ed's VIP list (which RochdaleEye is not), it opens at 6.00pm, when the ever-generous Ed will be plying his guests with free drinks.

Let's hope none of them crash their cars and get arrested for drink-driving!

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Post by sharonl on 07.11.12 0:25

Looks like it could be popular, it even has a Twitter account - 42 followers already. Can you spot anyone that we know of? big grin https://twitter.com/TheNordenArms/followers

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.11.12 0:42

@RochdaleEye wrote:Actually, if you're on Ed's VIP list (which RochdaleEye is not), it opens at 6.00pm, when the ever-generous Ed will be plying his guests with free drinks.
Will you be queuing up at the bar at 9pm, though. 'RochdaleEye'?

I wonder who the VIPs will be?

Someone from the senior levels of Rochdale Plannning Department, possibly? They always come on ahndy when you have controversial planning applications in the pipeline.

Or maybe some of these fellow-members of the East Lancashire Masonic Lodge? :-

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.11.12 0:54

@sharonl wrote:Looks like it could be popular, it even has a Twitter account - 42 followers already. Can you spot anyone that we know of? https://twitter.com/TheNordenArms/followers
Well, one name I did spot amongst the early followers of Smethurst's new pub, the Norden Arms, was a 'Greg Bailey'.

Now, there was a Greg Bailey from Rochdale who was on Facebook and was popularly known there as 'Greg The Groomer'.

Could be any old Greg Bailey, of course, it's a common enough name, there's probably dozens in and around the Rochdale area.

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The Norden Arms on Twitter

Post by RochdaleEye on 07.11.12 1:16

@sharonl wrote:Looks like it could be popular, it even has a Twitter account - 42 followers already. Can you spot anyone that we know of? https://twitter.com/TheNordenArms/followers
Here's the twitter feed from the Norden Arms: it looks like Smethurst's daughter from his first marriage, Annabel, has got herself a job there, along with her mate Emily Greenwood:

ThreeDoggg@Three_Doggg


5 Nov Luke @LukeDrogan
Congrats to @AmeliaRoseDrogs 4 getting her 1st job at The Norden Arms, looking forward to pissing you off behind the bar #drunkanddisorderly


4 Nov Annabel Smethurst@Annabel_Sm
@emilygreenw0od just got told your working with us in the norden arms! Can't believe I didn't know! Are you working Friday?


1 Nov Lindsay@Linbop1
@HoustonRamm you going to norden arms opening next friday??



1 Nov Kate Nixon@princesskt3
@HoustonRamm and the norden arms!!


31 Oct Dan G@dggood
Gastro posh pub Norden blue ball arms now having its duckworth cladding stuck on round the cheapo pvc windows!


31 Oct TheNordenArms@TheNordenArms
The Grand Opening of the Norden Arms will be at 9pm on Friday 9th November! See you all there!

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Post by Newintown on 07.11.12 1:22

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Looks like it could be popular, it even has a Twitter account - 42 followers already. Can you spot anyone that we know of? https://twitter.com/TheNordenArms/followers
Well, one name I did spot amongst the early followers of Smethurst's new pub, the Norden Arms, was a 'Greg Bailey'.

Now, there was a Greg Bailey from Rochdale who was on Facebook and was popularly known there as 'Greg The Groomer'.

Could be any old Greg Bailey, of course, it's a common enough name, there's probably dozens in and around the Rochdale area.

Hello Tony, I'm still up and about trawling the internet whilst I'm waiting for my dinner to cook, although by the time it's ready it'll be breakfast.

You and everyone else on this forum really leave me gobsmacked by all the information you find. You all deserve a medal for the hours you all put in. The information you find is truly astonishing.

Let us all hope that one day all this will come to the conclusion of what happened to poor little Madeleine, who has seemed to be forgotten in the quest for ................................. (I did fill in the blanks but decided to delete them, knowing that CR would object to whatever I stated, although true, in my mind anyway).

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Post by aiyoyo on 07.11.12 4:07

Law business is odd bed fellow with pub business, so a lawyer operating a pub...ermm...

Pub is perfect place to gather gossips, solicit or hide x business. Now those *sworn-by-blood brothers* and *ex-coopers turned PIs* have more reasons to meet up.

A PUB with its ever changing and ever flowing human traffic is perfect venue to engage people and promote awareness of Missing Madeleine.
So we shall see whether Edward Smethurst as trustee of the Find Madeleine Fund which main aim is the *SEARCH for Madeleine* would put his money where his mouth is, and have *Find Madeleine Stickers* displayed prominently on his PUB's front Door and Windows as well as have a box of stickers at the entrance for free distributions and chain effect circulations.

That's the least a Director of the Fund, who is committed to the search, can do to be proactive about the search one would imagine.

It's free publicity for the mccanns campaign, plus no cost is involved for that, which will save the Fund money, which can only be a good move.
So let's see how serious these trustees are about their legal obligation to ensure that the search is ongoing to justify the existence of the Fund and the continual build up of the Fund.

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Post by RochdaleEye on 07.11.12 6:54

@aiyoyo wrote:Law business is odd bed fellow with pub business, so a lawyer operating a pub...ermm...

Pub is perfect place to gather gossips, solicit or hide x business. Now those *sworn-by-blood brothers* and *ex-coopers turned PIs* have more reasons to meet up.

A PUB with its ever changing and ever flowing human traffic is perfect venue to engage people and promote awareness of Missing Madeleine.

So we shall see whether Edward Smethurst as Trustee of the Find Madeleine Fund which main aim is the *SEARCH for Madeleine* would put his money where his mouth is, and have *Find Madeleine Stickers* displayed prominently on his PUB's front door and windows as well as have a box of stickers at the entrance for free distributions and chain effect circulations.

That's the least a Director of the Fund, who is committed to the search, can do to be proactive about the search one would imagine.

It's free publicity for the McCanns' campaign, plus no cost is involved for that, which will save the Fund money, which can only be a good move.

So let's see how serious these Trustees are...
Well, I'll be there amongst the queue waiting to enter at 9pm, I'll certainly let you know if there are 'Find Madeleine' beer mats or a collecting tin for 'Find Madeleine Fund' on the bar. You just never know, Madeleine could easily be living wth someone in Rochdale.

If James Halley pitches up to the opening (which I think is highly likely), I wonder if he'll be talking about his two heroes Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter? ( see my post, 5th one down, here: http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5770-the-smethurst-files )

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Post by Tony Bennett on 07.11.12 7:22

@Newintown wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@sharonl wrote:Looks like it could be popular, it even has a Twitter account - 42 followers already. Can you spot anyone that we know of? https://twitter.com/TheNordenArms/followers
Well, one name I did spot amongst the early followers of Smethurst's new pub, the Norden Arms, was a 'Greg Bailey'.

Now, there was a Greg Bailey from Rochdale who was on Facebook and was popularly known there as 'Greg The Groomer'.

Could be any old Greg Bailey, of course, it's a common enough name, there's probably dozens in and around the Rochdale area.
Hello Tony, I'm still up and about trawling the internet whilst I'm waiting for my dinner to cook, although by the time it's ready it'll be breakfast.

You and everyone else on this forum really leave me gobsmacked by all the information you find. You all deserve a medal for the hours you all put in. The information you find is truly astonishing.
That's kind of you. Think of it as unpaid investigative journalism, much more of which is done on the internet these days than in the mainstream British press

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Post by Badboys on 07.11.12 15:08

I wonder about w broadbent(i presume)1965 if he is related to anyone i can think of(believe to be common surname in that part of the world)

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Post by RochdaleEye on 07.11.12 21:54

Less than 48 hours to go now to the opening of the Norden Arms, oops, I've just looked at the website, the GRAND opening of the Norden Arms, sorry.

Well, 48 hours to when the plebs are let in; by then there'll be loads of well tanked-up VIPs who'll have been knocking back free booze for three hours. I hope I'm introduced to some of these important people.

I say 'GRAND OPENING' but today it was more like a GRAND TRAFFIC JAM on the Edenfield Road, as dozens of white van men turned up during the day to get the whole show in the road by Friday, blocking the road on occasions, as there was nowhere for them to park.

Being ready by 6pm Friday for the VIPs might be a tall order. Just a warning: there'll probably be a strong smell of paint when you go in on Friday, as the painters were only able to start work today.

Still, Ed has seen to the most important thing, beer barrels by the score were seen being rolled into the cellars.

The website is looking more than a little threadbare so far, but the social media side of things is going well - 44 twitterers and 128 Facebook members even before it's opened.

It all promises to be an evening to remember

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THE SMETHURST FILES - 6. Smethurst 'revitalises' Norden: The 'Norden Arms' opens

Post by RochdaleEye on 09.11.12 22:42

Well, the media side of things has gone well for Edward Smethurst.

Tonight's 'Rochdale Online' not only announces that a new pub has opened but trumpets Smethurst's achievements in 'revitalising' the hitherto lifeless community of Norden.

As I predicted on this forum days ago, it is indeed ex-Elephant & Castle pub manager Addy Bleackley who has accepted the challenge of helping Smethurst achieve his aim of 'revitalising' Norden.

Let's hope it succeeds. Norden has been waiting for something like this for a very long time:


Refurbished Rochdale pub to revitalise community

Reporter: Colin Henrys
Date online: 09 November 2012


A Rochdale pub, which hopes to become a thriving hub for the community, opened tonight after undergoing a huge refurbishment.

The Norden Arms, located in Edenfield Road, Norden, was bought by lawyer and successful property investor Edward Smethurst.

After a 16-week refurbishment, specially-invited guests were welcomed at 6pm tonight before the doors opened to the public at 9pm.


General Manager Adrian Bleackley hopes it can fill a void in the area: “We want to revitalise the community,” he said.

“There was nowhere in the community to meet up for a drink or to socialise.

“When we saw this, we both thought it was a good opportunity to create that.

“Hopefully it will go from strength to strength and if it takes off it can become a real hub for the community.”

Mr Bleackley explained they have also taken on a head chef who will provide traditional English meals from locally sourced ingredients, while cask ales will be served on draught.


http://www.rochdaleonline.co.uk/news-features/1/business-news/75132/refurbished-rochdale-pub-to-revitalise-community

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Norden Arms, owned by McCanns' Co-ordinating Solicitor, senior Freemason Edward Smethurst, is the worst-rated pub for hygiene out of hundreds in the Greater Manchester area

Post by Tony Bennett on 26.11.15 23:28

Bad news for Edward Smethurst.

Hundreds of pubs in the Greater Manchester area were assessed for food hygiene in recent months.

41 pubs were bad enough to get rated only '1' on the common '1-5' scale used by food hygiene assessors.

But only one received a ZERO rating...

...The Norden Arms, Rochdale, owned by Edward Smethurst:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/food-hygiene-pubs-clubs-bars-10509472

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Post by sharonl on 27.11.15 0:03

IIRC When it first opened there were some major health and safety issues, like with the building works not being completed on time.  Weren't there some problems with an incomplete stairway - amongst a number of other things?

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Post by roy rovers on 27.11.15 11:33

The linked article not unsurprisingly blames 'the kitchen team (which has) entirely been replaced '. I wonder who the 'kitchen team' were? How were they selected, trained, monitored etc? It is well known that poor service in organisations is the result of poor leadership. So the Norden Arms had two problems - 1. It had poor service 2. It thought it was due to the 'kitchen team' not someone further up the chain.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 27.11.15 13:18

When the Norden Arms was opened in late 2012, Edward Smethurst said he was opening it as 'there is nowhere else for people to socialise in the area'.

That comment drew these protests and deeply sarcastic and  ironic comments:

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Is Adrian going to revitalise the community like he did at the Elephant and Castle? sarcastic
What an absolute load of rubbish way to go to alienate the pub going people of the village. The people of Norden have many places to meet up to drink and socialise and will continue to use these rather than a cheaply fitted out bar.


By Norden Community @ 14/11/2012 10:59:17

With a certain local businessman involved I am sure it will be here to stay sarcastic .
Anybody remember the following: 
Blue Monkey Estates 
Michael Stewart Estates
Stewart and Woodbridge
Woodbridge Estates
I'm sure this will be a a real benefit to the community sarcastic .

By eyeinthesky @ 14/11/2012 11:01:42

"There was nowhere in the community to meet up for a drink or to socialise". The Horse and Farrier, the Brown Cow, The Bridge, The White Lion, Norden Cricket Club, The Bowling Club, other than that, there is nowhere to meet up for a drink or to socialise. And I prefer the view of Edenfield Road from the decking outside the Cow, though the bus stop across from the Norden Arms is an impressive feat of architecture and traditional British engineering.

By wibble79 @ 15/11/2012 10:27:58

Well said Wibble, also worth mentioning are the non alcoholic options. Bridge cafe, Millcroft Tea Gardens, Granellis, Cafe Eden. 
How we survived before this pub opened no one will know!


By Norden Community @ 15/11/2012 12:37:02

Here, here Norden Community and Wibble, how very rude and patronising to all the other established pubs and eateries in Norden. With cold, harsh and very confused decor and steaks starting at £21 not sure how we are going to be "revitalised". There are many people here who wont be wanting to put money into this business man's pocket either.

By lancashirelass @ 26/11/2012 14:21:32 


When the pub opened, Smethurst immediately appointed his eldest of five children, Annabel, to run the bar and act as a waitress.

Smethurst has been a Director of the Find Madeleine Fund since 2009      

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Post by sallypelt on 27.11.15 13:30

“What a dump”
Reviewed 11 September 2015 via mobile
Went on Wednesday night for something to eat. It isn't the first time we've been but probably will be the last. The food although quite good is vastly overpriced and the state of the decor in the bar is appalling. The place needs a good clean and redecorating and the only place for the furniture is the tip. The staff...


http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g580426-d3647291-Reviews-or10-The_Norden_Arms-Rochdale_Greater_Manchester_England.html#REVIEWS

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Post by Dr What on 27.11.15 13:42

I wonder if he knows anyone who could give it a damn good scrub down, remove all those bits of hair and dirt inbetween the tiles and off the walls and floor.
Sounds to me a good forensic rub down is what it needs.

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Post by stumo on 27.11.15 20:42

@Dr What wrote:I wonder if he knows anyone who could give it a damn good scrub down, remove all those bits of hair and dirt inbetween the tiles and off the walls and floor.
Sounds to me a good forensic rub down is what it needs.

He should get a couple of his friends in to do it. I believe they're very good.   winkwink

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Post by suzyb on 25.04.16 0:11

"When the pub opened, Smethurst immediately appointed his eldest of five children, Annabel, to run the bar and act as a waitress."
He actually has 6 kids to 3 different mothers - this upstanding pillar of the community.


Forever trying to flog the dead horse that is the Norden Arms it seems the Deli has now been turfed out (interesting that Smethurst had become a director of that company too, not sure what happened to the guy whose business it was) and an "Italian Operator" has been drafted in to re open the "coffee shop and deli"  as an Italian restaurant.  Hopefully that half of the building will be a bit cleaner. Hope this "Italian Operator" knows what he is in for as people don't tend to last in business with Eddie.


A pub has re opened in neighbouring Bamford under the new name of The Bamford Arms - and apparently its nowt to do with Eddie.  Not sure why after the rather shocking hygene rating debacle anyone would want to be even remotely associated with a health hazard but dear old Eddie has taken this badly and rumours have it that he is threatening to sue.


Wonder if he is taking on all the other establishments that have traded for centuries as the "something" Arms?  - maybe he is just arrogant enough to try. Will there be anyone left in Rochdale soon that he hasn't threatened to sue at some point?

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Re: Norden Arms, owned by McCanns' Co-ordinating Solicitor, senior Freemason Edward Smethurst, is the worst-rated pub for hygiene out of hundreds in the Greater Manchester area

Post by Tony Bennett on 25.04.16 10:57

@suzyb wrote:"When the pub opened, Smethurst immediately appointed his eldest of five children, Annabel, to run the bar and act as a waitress."
He actually has 6 kids to 3 different mothers - this upstanding pillar of the community.


Forever trying to flog the dead horse that is the Norden Arms it seems the Deli has now been turfed out (interesting that Smethurst had become a director of that company too, not sure what happened to the guy whose business it was) and an "Italian Operator" has been drafted in to re open the "coffee shop and deli"  as an Italian restaurant.  Hopefully that half of the building will be a bit cleaner. Hope this "Italian Operator" knows what he is in for as people don't tend to last in business with Eddie.


A pub has re opened in neighbouring Bamford under the new name of The Bamford Arms - and apparently its nowt to do with Eddie.  Not sure why after the rather shocking hygene rating debacle anyone would want to be even remotely associated with a health hazard but dear old Eddie has taken this badly and rumours have it that he is threatening to sue.


Wonder if he is taking on all the other establishments that have traded for centuries as the "something" Arms?  - maybe he is just arrogant enough to try. Will there be anyone left in Rochdale soon that he hasn't threatened to sue at some point?
Ah! Some local knowledge.

Is he still driving around in Rollers with registration numbers like ' 7 EGS ' and ' 9 EGS ' ?  

And how's his property empire in Rochdale and Bury these days?

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Post by suzyb on 28.04.16 18:28

Oh yes he is still "over egging it" in his Chelsea Tractor and his Lady Penelope Bentley (not exactly pink but burgundy so close enough!)
The 2nd wife's private reg ends in 666 - make of that what you will   devi1

Sure his property empire is growing, all at the expense of the little people.

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Has Smethurst's joint director of Palladium Pete Giles been spending too much time in the Norden Arms?

Post by SUSIEB on 12.05.16 21:32

Check out the Bolton News on 20 April 2016 - "In The Dock".  Upstanding member of the community Peter Giles of Parkway Westhoughton has been banned for 14 months for drink driving.  The former Detective Chief Inspector is a director of Edward Smethurst's crime busting company Palladium Associates PLC - thought they were supposed to solve crime not commit it!

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Post by Tony Bennett on 13.05.16 0:47

@SUSIEB wrote:Check out the Bolton News on 20 April 2016 - "In The Dock".  Upstanding member of the community Peter Giles of Parkway Westhoughton has been banned for 14 months for drink driving.  The former Detective Chief Inspector is a director of Edward Smethurst's crime busting company Palladium Associates PLC - thought they were supposed to solve crime not commit it!
Peter Giles is a name that sometimes comes up in connection with the very surprising decision by Metrolink to award Edward Smethurst's firm, Palladium Associates, the security contract for the entire Metrolink network. 

Giles became a Director of Palladium on 5 January 2012, just after what was reported to be a major bust-up between Smethurst and his previous business partner, Steve May.

Both Steve May and Peter Giles were former Greater Manchester Police officers.

Others thought to have helped Smethurst's Palladium to secure this contract include another very senior Freemason, Wesley Marchant, who was the former Head of Policing and Security at Metrolink, and a Michael Mabey.

Nothing improper is being suggested by wondering if Giles, Marchant and Mabey did help Smethurst's Palladium Associates to secure the Metrolink contract.

For all I know they may be doing an excellent job of running security on Metrolink's enormous transport network in the Greater Manchester area.

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