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Post by Tony Bennett on 16.11.15 17:47

@comperedna wrote:Mods please move this if you don't think it relevant enough. These 'Islamist' extremists can't be negotiated with, can't or won't discuss their grievances, or wishes with anyone. I keep hearing people on TV sayiing...What do they want? Why don't they negotiate and let the young and innocent go and fight the authorities... How can once decent young men become so callous and brutal? This book showed me how it works in another context, on another continent

The book is Death in the Andes by Mario Vargas Lhosa. It is not about extremist Islam at all but, amongst other things about the Sendero Luminoso or Shining Path: the cruel, savage and highly ideologically driven Maoist terrorist organisation that infested and still infests the poorer parts of the High Andes. It is a detective story, and a study of the layers Peruvian society too. Two basically decent policemen are sent to find out what happened to three young men who have disappeared. They set up a guard post in a village mostly composed of poor Indian families, many of whose inhabitants work locally on building a road. There is a constant air of menace, and the terrorists sweep in from time to time, killing people almost at random to get the local population terrified enough to knuckle under. A couple of young French tourists out to see an archaeological site, and an elderly woman ecologust replanting trees, who insists she is doing it for all Peruvians... IT DOES NOT MATTER. They do not listen. There is no discussion. People are done to death in crude and horrible ways... any and all people... especially educated people... in the most grotesque fashion. It is a grim but compelling read and I recommend it to anyone puzzled about how normal young men, and they are mostly young men, can behave in the way they do, 'for the cause'.
Very relevant, thank you.

The fact that suicide bombers are told they will have amazingly wonderful sexual encounters on going to heaven - and that theiry familiies will receive thousands of pounds by way of bounty:       http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/21/paycheck-terrorism-5300-suicide-attack/

...all helps to provide a continuous flow of more suicide bombers.

Muhammed was very interested in sex, as his 22 wives and betrothal to Aisha when she was 6 and he was 51 make clear. As Muhammed is the one the Muslims all look up to, just as for Christians, Jesus Christ is he example and pattern, so it's not surprising that in many Islamic countries, girls as young as 8, 9 and 10 are still. routinely, forcibly married to much older men.     

Of course there are 'good' Muslims who ignore the violence and hatred and absorption with the subject of martyrdom which gripped Muhammed's mind in his final 10 years, and was poured out into the Koran after his death.

But over half the mosques in the U.K. are funded by Saudi Arabia, with its jihadist, Wahhabi ideology, and the militant bits of the Koran: 'slay the infidel wherever he may be found' etc. are drummed into the ears of infants in countless mosques and madrassas throughout our land

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Post by Joss on 17.11.15 4:19

Press TV Debate: Did West need Paris false-flag attack to pressure Syria?
Hollande's predictable "pitiless" response will be "boots on the ground in Syria" - to fight Assad not ISIS
Press TV has interviewed Kevin Barrett, editor of Veterans Today from Madison, and Bob Ayers, a former US intelligence officer from Somerset, UK, to discuss the terror attacks, claimed by Daesh, that left nearly 130 people dead in Paris, France.
Barrett believes what happened in Paris seem to be “false-flag” attacks that had the backing of the West and its Middle Eastern allies, rejecting the mainstream narrative that the assaults were “purely” carried out by Daesh terrorists.
See Barrett’s article, published a few hours after first reports of the Paris attacks:
Another French false flag?


Daesh “is not what it purports to be, it’s been benefiting from massive aid from the West, primarily from US allies in the Middle East, but perhaps also to some extent from elements in the US apparatus” in the region, Barrett says, adding that numerous reports indicate Washington contributed to the rise of the extremist terror group.
He adds that Daesh is not in a position to conduct such organized terror attacks in France, adding that the incidents will have a number of “very predictable consequences,” including a call for an increase in the Western intervention in Syria.
The analyst describes the West as the “de facto” ally of Daesh, arguing that it makes no sense for the terrorist group to create such a “monstrous, extreme and over-the-top stunt” in the French capital.
Unless, of course, the plan is for the West to come in [Syria] pretending to be fighting…(Daesh), but actually to ramp up its struggle against President Assad at a time when Russians have been having great success in helping the Damascus government continue its battles against terror groups, Barrett says.


The Paris attacks have, in fact, been committed by the “real axis of evil,” Barrett stressed.
The commentator also highlights the role of Western intelligence services in creating Daesh, saying these spy agencies use propaganda to dupe “naïve” young people into joining the ranks of the terrorist outfit in Syria.
Ayers, for his turn, believes Daesh has carried out the attacks in Paris to send a warning message to the West, especially to France, that if they continue to target the terror group’s positions, it will have its own alternative ways to retaliate.
He also rejects the idea that Western media adopt a double-standard approach in covering the fatal terror attacks that kill Middle Easterners and those that happen in Europe and Western states.

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Post by comperedna on 17.11.15 13:53

Daesh?/ISIS is said to get lots of financial support not from the Saudi royals per se, or the government of Sausi Arabia in general, but from a lot of rich individual 'Salafi' Sunnis who follow extremist, fundamentalist Wahabi Islam.

The trouble is Islam as had no reformation. OK... I know about the Sunni/Shia divide but that is more schism than reformation. Where is the Muslim Luther nailing up his tenets on some important mosque door? A lot of strict Muslim believers are amazingly literalist. True there are Christians in the Bible Belt of the USA like this, but it is the norm amongst very conservative Muslims.

What I do know, perhaps because I am familiar with some of those who worship at the main mosque in Oxford, who are as far from this grotesque ideology as can be, is that there are huge numbers of so-called 'moderate' Muslims, or perhaps better expressed as 'ordinary' Muslims who are appalled at what is being, and has been, done in the name of their religion. My husband's deputy, one of the most decent people I know, is one such, and a close friend is a lapsed Muslim, brought up fairly conservatively, but now a Humanist. (Yes there are a fair few 'apostates' about and not being bumped off by fanatics either.) Ordinary decent Muslim citizens must feel dreadful about being tarred with the fanatiical brush, particularly by the likes of Marine Le Pen in France and extreme right wing politicians everywhere.

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Post by comperedna on 17.11.15 13:56

Sorry, my spelling, or rather my typing, seems to have gone to pot.

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Post by aquila on 17.11.15 13:58

@comperedna wrote:Daesh?/ISIS is said to get lots of financial support not from the Saudi royals per se, or the government of Sausi Arabia in general, but from a lot of rich individual 'Salafi' Sunnis who follow extremist, fundamentalist Wahabi Islam.

The trouble is Islam as had no reformation. OK... I know about the Sunni/Shia divide but that is more schism than reformation. Where is the Muslim Luther nailing up his tenets on some important mosque door? A lot of strict Muslim believers are amazingly literalist. True there are Christians in the Bible Belt of the USA like this, but it is the norm amongst very conservative Muslims.

What I do know, perhaps because I am familiar with some of those who worship at the main mosque in Oxford, who are as far from this grotesque ideology as can be, is that there are huge numbers of so-called 'moderate' Muslims, or perhaps better expressed as 'ordinary' Muslims who are appalled at what is being, and has been, done in the name of their religion. My husband's deputy, one of the most decent people I know, is one such, and a close friend is a lapsed Muslim, brought up fairly conservatively, but now a Humanist. (Yes there are a fair few 'apostates' about and not being bumped off by fanatics either.) Ordinary decent Muslim citizens must feel dreadful about being tarred with the fanatiical brush, particularly by the likes of Marine Le Pen in France and extreme right wing politicians everywhere.
Maybe, just maybe you are mistaking middle class, well educated Muslims for the flood of lowly people who flood the countries of Europe and swamp cities. It's one thing to have a relationship on a personal basis with someone of a different religion or culture. It's quite another to see the impact Islam has on this little island of ours.

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Post by comperedna on 17.11.15 14:09

I get what you are saying aquila, but Oxon does have quite a large Moslem population, a lot of it not at all middle class, or academic. Two people known to me locally have daughters who have married Muslims... both as it happens workers in restaurants.  I felt uneasy when I heard, I must admit, because of common attitudes to women, but it is some years on now... and so far so good... The big difference in Oxfordshire is that though there are districts where Muslim families cluster, as families of immigrant origin tend to do, there are NO huge ghettos, or no-go areas where non-Muslims do not feel welcome or even safe.  I am told that in some Northern cities ghettoisation is almost complete.

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Post by aquila on 17.11.15 14:20

@comperedna wrote:I get what you are saying aquila, but Oxon does have quite a large Moslem population, a lot of it not at all middle class, or academic. Two people known to me locally have daughters who have married Muslims... both as it happens workers in restaurants.  I felt uneasy when I heard, I must admit, because of common attitudes to women, but it is some years on now... and so far so good... The big difference in Oxfordshire is that though there are districts where Muslim families cluster, as families of immigrant origin tend to do, there are NO huge ghettos, or no-go areas where non-Muslims do not feel welcome or even safe.  I am told that in some Northern cities ghettoisation is almost complete.
Visit Birmingham, Bradford and Leicester for starters. Pass through the no-go areas on your way into the cities in your car as you travel to work. Watch, over a period of twenty years as your cities have become ghettoes to Islam.

As you sit in your car on your way home from work, listening to the radio and in a traffic jam, watch the little boys wearing their hats and being made to go straight from schools to be taught the Quran. As you sit in the traffic jam see how much money is pumped into these 'communities'.

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Post by BlueBag on 17.11.15 14:25

Islam is never going to get away from Muhammed as the role model.

It simply can't, he is the focus of Islam.

As role models go he's not great... beheading, amputations, stoning, war, slavery... all countenanced by him (he said it was God).

I don't care what the "moderate" apologists say.

Muslims need full education about their roots and encouragement to publicly walk away from it.

The punishment for apostasy is death though.

Something the "moderates" won't want to discuss... I've tried.

Christianity for all it's faults doesn't have a violent head case for a founder and role model.

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Post by comperedna on 17.11.15 15:07

'As you sit in your car on your way home from work, listening to the radio and in a traffic jam, watch the little boys wearing their hats and being made to go straight from schools to be taught the Quran. As you sit in the traffic jam see how much money is pumped into these 'communities'.'

I have seen 'little boys wearing their hats' on their way to religious school as I used, years ago years ago to live in Stamford Hill, an orthodox Jewish community, which certainly had its problems HOWEVER money was not poured into the 'community'.

I do know at close second hand of one serious problem with Muslim religious schools. I know of a boy who had, shall we say, gross intellectual difficulties and the Koranic instructor - 'learn the pages of the Holy Book by heart' was told this by his class teacher. It did not matter - he took no notice - and the boy was bullied for not doing what he did not have the spare little grey cells to do. It all came to light because the boy began to suffer from alopecia due to stress. I believe he was banned from attending by medical authorities in the end.

That brings me to something else important. Mullahs themselves and also Muslim religious school teachers often have poor English and poor education, even in their own faith. We need more home grown ones, with understanding or the requirement of our British law and essentials rather than ignorant ones from the sticks on the subcontinent.

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Post by aquila on 17.11.15 15:26

No matter how you wrap this up, you can tie it up with ribbons and bows and give it a firework display it remains a rat's nest.

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Post by Joss on 17.11.15 15:52

All Abrahamic religions IMO are inherently wicked. The so called "rats nest" is humanity in general, they go forth and pour all kinds of their vileness upon this beautiful planet, why? We can't just pick and choose and focus upon one problem because there are so very many that culminate in the mess we see today. My husband being Eastern Band of Cherokee where the ancestors were slaughtered in their sleep by the whites, forced onto reservations, their children stolen from them and forced to catholic boarding schools where they had the most inhumane atrocities inflicted upon them and where their parents never saw them again. The mass graves of Indian children found in Canada, the list goes on. The paedophilia that has been inflicted upon the children by priests and others whom have been put in places where our children are entrusted to them and were violated. Atrocities happen in all walks of life and countries, the West are just as bad. We go and slaughter around a million people in Iraq and thousands more in the Middle East, because of these fake wars on terror perpetuated and kept going at all costs to further the Govt.'s agenda's for their greed and power hunger to control, with their fear porn, and for all they care the destruction of humanity wherever and whenever they see fit to suit themselves. The lunatics are indeed running the asylum.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.11.15 16:01

@BlueBag wrote:Moderate Muslims cornered on Apostasy.

Faisal Saeed Al-Mutar, a former Muslim from Iraq, has penned this biting, satirical piece today: "I am a jihadist and I am tired of not being given credit."

I think it's worth a read: 

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It must be incredibly frustrating as an Islamic Jihadist not to have your views and motives taken seriously by the societies you terrorize, even after you have explicitly and repeatedly stated them. Even worse, those on the regressive left, in their endless capacity for masochism and self-loathing, have attempted to shift blame inwardly on themselves, denying the Jihadists even the satisfaction of claiming responsibility.

It’s like a bad Monty Python sketch:

"We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it.”

“No you didn’t.”

“Wait, what? Yes we did…”

“No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons.”

“WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers.”

“No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so.”

“Huh!? Who are you to tell us we’re not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being.”

“Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that’s why you did this. We’re sorry.”

“What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians – disenfranchisement doesn’t even enter into it!”

“Listen, it’s our fault. We don’t blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out.”

“Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we’re not going to let you take it away from us.”

“No, we nourished your extremism. We accept full blame.”

“OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?”

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.11.15 16:54

@Joss wrote:All Abrahamic religions IMO are inherently wicked.

Joss said: "All Abrahamic religions IMO are inherently wicked."

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Abraham was born around 1996 BC.

His wife Sarah couldn’t conceive. So Abraham, with Sarah’s blessing, had a child by one of his servants, Hagar. His name was Ishmael.

Later Sarah gave birth herself to a child, Isaac, a child which God had long time before promised her.

Relations between the two women deteriorated and Hagar and Ishmael left the family home.

Abraham was a man who had faith in his Creator, who promised him and his descendants a home in Cannan.

From then on, Jewish history was substantially about a coming Redeemer, or Messiah. The exodus from Egypt to Canaan spoke of a promised land for believers. The Old Testament sacrifices required a spotless lamb to be selected on the 10th of the first month (Nisan) and killed on the 14th.

And so it came to pass that Christ came and, as predicted 1,500 years before, rode into Jerusalem on the 10th of of Nisan (the spotless lamb) and was crucified four days later on the 14th (the sacrifice). At that moment, the sacrifcial ceremonies were cancelled - the ‘once-for-all’ sacrifice had now been made.     

And at that moment, as there was total darkness across the earth for three hours, and a violent earthquake, Christ died, uttering the words: ‘It is finished’, meaning that He had paid the due penalty for the sins of those who would believe in Him.

And at that very moment, Judaism morphed into Christianity.

Judaism continues for those Jews who don’t believe that Christ was the promised Saviour and Redeemer.

As for Islam, the Prophet Muhammed, in his twisted teachings, twisted the Biblical account and claimed that lshmael (the acknowledged father of the Arab peoples) was the true ‘son of the promise’. That is the very slender ground on which Islam is said to be ‘Abrahamic’. It isn’t, in any sense of the word.

As to the alleged wickedness of Christ and Christianity:

* Christ suffered torture and a humiliating death in order to liberate people from sin and forgive them

* He taught the Beatitudes: ‘Blessed are the meek, blessed are the peacemakers’ etc.

* He reaffirmed all of The Ten Commandments

* He taught the Lord’s Prayer: ‘Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive  those that trespass against us’

* He taught people to ‘turn the other cheek’, and even when He was being mocked and spat at on the cross. He cried out: ‘Father, forgive them for they know not what to do’

* He taught His followers to live a simple life, not coveting wealth or fame.

It’s hard to see what is ‘wicked’ about such a religion.                     

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Post by BlueBag on 17.11.15 17:03

Although no longer a Christian I have a lot of time for some of the Jesus tales... especially the one about the woman about to be stoned (a late addition to the Gospel).

A remarkable story.

However the stuff about burning forever in torment if you don't believe isn't among my favorites. That's a kind of spiritual terrorism.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.11.15 17:29

@BlueBag wrote:Although no longer a Christian I have a lot of time for some of the Jesus tales...especially the one about the woman about to be stoned (a late addition to the Gospel). A remarkable story.

REPLY: I think the balance of opinion is that it was always part of John's Gospel, but some church leaders thought it ought to be removed, so there are quite a lot of texts without that passage in it.  It also contains one of the few references to the 'Finger of God', as the passage records how Christ wrote words in the sands with His finger - some say he was writing out the sins of the church leaders demanding that he woman be stoned to death.  The others are of course the writing of The Ten Commandments and at Belshazzar's Feast, the night the King of Babylon and his guests were drinking themselves legless and doing so out of the Jewish cups and goblets captured from their temple in 586 BC.  The Finger of God wrote on the walls: MENE, MENE, TEKEK, UPHARSIN - "You are weighed in the balances and found wanting". And, as the Bible records: "In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. And Darius the Median took the kingdom..." (Daniel 5 vv 30,31).   



However the stuff about burning forever in torment if you don't believe isn't among my favorites. That's a kind of spiritual terrorism.

REPLY: I wish all could see the beauty and magnificence of the Creator's creation of the universe and the earth and all that is within it, and would want to live by God's rules and enjoy Him in heaven for eternity.    

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Post by Sophiebubbles on 17.11.15 18:32

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:Although no longer a Christian I have a lot of time for some of the Jesus tales...especially the one about the woman about to be stoned (a late addition to the Gospel). A remarkable story.

REPLY: I think the balance of opinion is that it was always part of John's Gospel, but some church leaders thought it ought to be removed, so there are quite a lot of texts without that passage in it.  It also contains one of the few references to the 'Finger of God', as the passage records how Christ wrote words in the sands with His finger - some say he was writing out the sins of the church leaders demanding that he woman be stoned to death.  The others are of course the writing of The Ten Commandments and at Belshazzar's Feast, the night the King of Babylon and his guests were drinking themselves legless and doing so out of the Jewish cups and goblets captured from their temple in 586 BC.  The Finger of God wrote on the walls: MENE, MENE, TEKEK, UPHARSIN - "You are weighed in the balances and found wanting". And, as the Bible records: "In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. And Darius the Median took the kingdom..." (Daniel 5 vv 30,31).   



However the stuff about burning forever in torment if you don't believe isn't among my favorites. That's a kind of spiritual terrorism.

REPLY: I wish all could see the beauty and magnificence of the Creator's creation of the universe and the earth and all that is within it, and would want to live by God's rules and enjoy Him in heaven for eternity.    


@ Tony Bennett......Never a more truthful word spoken.....There is so much beauty and wonderment to enjoy, Gods rules are simple, ignoring hatred around you and towards you allows you a lightness of heart and happiness not just in this life but we are told for eternity........as you say.....If only all could see.

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Post by sammi1967 on 17.11.15 18:45

If we are still of the opinion that the earth was created by God then I question the credibility of some. I mean seriously?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.11.15 19:07

@sammi1967 wrote:If we are still of the opinion that the earth was created by God then I question the credibility of some. I mean seriously?

How did this happen? - 'The Amazing Life Cycle of a Monarch Butterfly'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AUeM8MbaIk (4 minutes, over 2.5 million views so far)

Was it by life sparking into existence by a few inorganic amino acids getting together, plus billions of years of time, chance, the 'struggle for existence' and natural selection (the current prevailing evolutionary mindset)

OR

Is it likely that a brilliant Designer-Creator designed this wonderful and beautiful life cycle?

Seriously, which is more credible?

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Post by BlueBag on 17.11.15 19:54

OR

Some process we don't understand.

OR 

Some process we can't possibly understand (like ants in an ant farm).

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I know there are lots of problems with evolution - the sheer complexity and the Cambrian explosion for a start.

Doesn't mean I'm voting "God did it".

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Pat Condell on the insanity of Europe - on the issue of Muslim immigration

Post by Tony Bennett on 17.11.15 22:06

Pat Condell made this video on 28 September - 7 weeks before the Paris atrocities. He predicted more mass murders on our streets.

One of the issues he raises is the increase in rapes of women as Muslim men move into Europe. He mentions Germany. In recent years, very large numbers of Muslims have moved to Sweden. There has been an absolutely staggering rise in rapes by Muslims, and Sweden now has by far the highest rate of rape crimes in the whole of Europe.

Some might regard Pat Condell as speaking a bit too plainly.

But I think this is well worth a watch - over half a million have watched it so far (just 6 minutes long):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcltV7r-nM

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Re: Paris Attacks, Friday 13 Nov 2015 - Bombs and shootings kill 80 in concert hall, dozens more in several other locations - over 200 more injured, many seriously

Post by Verdi on 17.11.15 23:11

I hope the UK government has sufficient funds left in the public purse to increase national surveillance in order to root out terrorist cells.   After squandering millions on the futile exercise of reviewing and pretending to try and solve the case of one missing child, that was all but solved over eight years ago one wonders.

Prevention is better than cure, is it not?

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Re: Paris Attacks, Friday 13 Nov 2015 - Bombs and shootings kill 80 in concert hall, dozens more in several other locations - over 200 more injured, many seriously

Post by Joss on 18.11.15 3:33

@Verdi wrote:I hope the UK government has sufficient funds left in the public purse to increase national surveillance in order to root out terrorist cells.   After squandering millions on the futile exercise of reviewing and pretending to try and solve the case of one missing child, that was all but solved over eight years ago one wonders.

Prevention is better than cure, is it not?
Well the problem is the Government doesn't really care about the people. The so called leaders are just puppets dancing to what their puppetmasters tell them to do. Human beings are just collateral damage in their war games and other PTB agendas. Whoever holds the purse strings controls the world.
The Mccann cover up is anyone's guess as to why so many high ups were involved, and how this lengthy protracted case has been funded and investigated, and if it will ever come to any conclusion. All IMO.

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