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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 01.11.15 9:53




Original Source: TVI: 08 SEPTEMBER 2010

Broadcast by TVI, Jornal Nacional, 8 September 2010, Night News Edition

With thanks to Astro for translation

McCanns demand Amaral divorce to be rewarded


TVI’s anchor – Madeleine McCann’s parents want Gonçalo Amaral and his wife to execute a separation of assets in order to guarantee that the former Judiciary Police Inspector, author of the book “The Truth of the Lie”, has sufficient goods to pay up a damages claim. Gonçalo Amaral’s wife says she will not obey that court decision.

Voice Over reporter: The McCann couple ask for 1,2 million Euros to Gonçalo Amaral, for the contents of the book “The Truth of the Lie”. The process is ongoing, however in legal terms and in order to guarantee that the former Judiciary Police Inspector possessions are not lost, an apprehension of assets was ordered. Nevertheless, since those are common to his wife, the seizure of the said assets was refused. Currently, Maddie's parents demand that Gonçalo Amaral and his wife execute a separation of assets.

Sofia Leal Interview

Sofia Leal: It is an issue of separation of assets, but the dilemma is that all of our possessions are common. Our separation, of our life together and assets would be a fraud. We live, as everyone knows, in communion of goods [i.e. conjugal status], of togetherness, of life. During the last years of difficulties, of sadness; but also with many moments of joy.

Voice Over Reporter: This measure is foreseen in the law, but the couple affirms they will not oblige.
Sofia Leal: I do not even want to envisage that there is someone in Portugal that wants to force me to separate from my husband. Not to me, not to any other couple!

[TVI’s footage cut...] I did not expect any kind of posture; I would never authorize one of our lawyers to make such an outrageous proposal to a family.

Voice Over: In July 2009, the injunction requested by the McCanns to Gonçalo Amaral’s book was granted. At that time, Maddie’s parents attained his book authorship rights, half of his retirement pension as well as his share [half] of a rural house in Olhão.




http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/…/41s…/TVI_08_10_2010.htm

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Post by lj on 01.11.15 17:10

Lowlife scumbags, those pathetic parents.

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Post by ROSA on 04.11.15 11:35

Go get em Goncalo cant wait to see them locked up and the twins set free bomb

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And he adds: "In reality, when the McCanns went to Oprah's Show, the blanket was mentioned. At a given moment, when Oprah tells Kate that she heard her mention a blanket several times, Kate argued that a mother who misses a child always wants to know if she is comfortable, if she is warm, and added, referring to Maddie, that sometimes she asked herself if the person who had taken her would cover her up with her little blanket (but the blanket was on the bed after Maddie, supposedly, disappeared!!!).

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Post by plebgate on 13.11.15 10:29

Isn't it about time the whole of this sorry business was sorted?   What an absolute nightmare all of it is.  

Let's hope a decision is made this side of Christmas.

How long did it take for the last appeal  court decision to be made?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 13.11.15 11:08

@plebgate wrote:Isn't it about time the whole of this sorry business was sorted? What an absolute nightmare all of it is. Let's hope a decision is made this side of Christmas.
I make it very nearly six years and five months since the original libel writ was issued in June 2009 - or, according to my calculations, 2,340 days so far.

And the Appeal Court hearing has apparently not yet taken place.

And even after that, either side will be able to appeal that verdict to the Supreme Court.

The case has made the Portuguese judicial system an international joke.   

When this writ was issued, Goncalo Amaral was aged 50. He is now aged 57. Seven birthdays in a row, worried about a libel action that has ruined his life.

He once said: 'Justice works in silence'.

He should have said: 'Justice doesn't work'.

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Post by willowthewisp on 13.11.15 12:24

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@plebgate wrote:Isn't it about time the whole of this sorry business was sorted? What an absolute nightmare all of it is. Let's hope a decision is made this side of Christmas.
I make it very nearly six years and five months since the original libel writ was issued in June 2009 - or, according to my calculations, 2,340 days so far.

And the Appeal Court hearing has apparently not yet taken place.

And even after that, either side will be able to appeal that verdict to the Supreme Court.

The case has made the Portuguese judicial system an international joke.   

When this writ was issued, Goncalo Amaral was aged 50. He is now aged 57. Seven birthdays in a row, worried about a libel action that has ruined his life.

He once said: 'Justice works in silence'.

He should have said: 'Justice doesn't work'.
Hi Tony and do you think the UK has performed any better after having a huge amount of Police resources,MI5/6, at least 3 Prime Ministers and numerous Home Secretaries still no nearer a conclusion today after over Eight years?
What needs to be asked is why has all these resources and time been allocated to one specific event,Cover up?

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Post by plebgate on 13.11.15 17:39

Hi Tony, yes it does appear that justice isn't working for him at the moment.
 
However, I am still of the belief that it will prevail for him.  When though that is the quesiton?

Such a slow process, but is it possible his human rights are being breached with this long delay?  Not that he can do anything about it even if it is the case.

I am so glad that he had so many people willing to donate to help him, at least that has gone some way to buoy him up  and I would hazard a guess that some people are not at all pleased with the success of it. 

Again, well done Leanne. clapping

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Post by Tony Bennett on 13.11.15 20:32

@plebgate wrote:Hi Tony, yes it does appear that justice isn't working for him at the moment.
 
However, I am still of the belief that it will prevail for him.  When though that is the quesiton?

Such a slow process, but is it possible his human rights are being breached with this long delay? 
YES.

If you look up Article 6(1) of the European Convention on Human Rights, you'll see that the Convention guarantees 'the right to a fair trial' - whether of a criminal or a civil issue.

A delay like this of 6 years and 5 years - without an outcome in immediate sight - means, I am sure, that the Portuguese government's judicial system has breached Snr Amaral's human rights.

If he applied to the European Commission on Human Rights (EHCR), probably he would receive compensation from the Portuguese government, though cases there take a long time to hear as well, and the amounts of compensation awarded are very low.

It's an old-established and valid principle of any legal system that 'Justice Delayed is Justice Denied'. The Portuguese government and its judicial system have massively added to Snr Amaral's problems. The delay has been an intolerable, international outrage, no matter what the eventual outcome

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Post by jean-pierre.t50 on 20.11.15 14:59

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@plebgate wrote:Hi Tony, yes it does appear that justice isn't working for him at the moment.
 
However, I am still of the belief that it will prevail for him.  When though that is the quesiton?

Such a slow process, but is it possible his human rights are being breached with this long delay? 
YES.

If you look up Article 6(1) of the European Convention on Human Rights, you'll see that the Convention guarantees 'the right to a fair trial' - whether of a criminal or a civil issue.

A delay like this of 6 years and 5 years - without an outcome in immediate sight - means, I am sure, that the Portuguese government's judicial system has breached Snr Amaral's human rights.

If he applied to the European Commission on Human Rights (EHCR), probably he would receive compensation from the Portuguese government, though cases there take a long time to hear as well, and the amounts of compensation awarded are very low.

It's an old-established and valid principle of any legal system that 'Justice Delayed is Justice Denied'. The Portuguese government and its judicial system have massively added to Snr Amaral's problems. The delay has been an intolerable, international outrage, no matter what the eventual outcome

How would Dr Amaral be able to claim that his human rights and his 'right to a fair trial" have been breached when most of the delays to the trial have been occasioned by him?

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Post by aquila on 20.11.15 20:46

@jean-pierre.t50 wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@plebgate wrote:Hi Tony, yes it does appear that justice isn't working for him at the moment.
 
However, I am still of the belief that it will prevail for him.  When though that is the quesiton?

Such a slow process, but is it possible his human rights are being breached with this long delay? 
YES.

If you look up Article 6(1) of the European Convention on Human Rights, you'll see that the Convention guarantees 'the right to a fair trial' - whether of a criminal or a civil issue.

A delay like this of 6 years and 5 years - without an outcome in immediate sight - means, I am sure, that the Portuguese government's judicial system has breached Snr Amaral's human rights.

If he applied to the European Commission on Human Rights (EHCR), probably he would receive compensation from the Portuguese government, though cases there take a long time to hear as well, and the amounts of compensation awarded are very low.

It's an old-established and valid principle of any legal system that 'Justice Delayed is Justice Denied'. The Portuguese government and its judicial system have massively added to Snr Amaral's problems. The delay has been an intolerable, international outrage, no matter what the eventual outcome

How would Dr Amaral be able to claim that his human rights and his 'right to a fair trial" have been breached when most of the delays to the trial have been occasioned by him?
You make a fair point there jp, would you care to list the delays that have been occasioned during the whole process by both sides?

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Post by Amy Dean on 20.11.15 21:57

The only delay caused by GA that I remember was when he changed his lawyer.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 20.11.15 22:49

@Amy Dean wrote:The only delay caused by GA that I remember was when he changed his lawyer.
He delayed the hearing listed for IIRC 10 December 2009 because his lawyer was ill. The trial was adjourned to the following month

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Post by Guest on 20.11.15 23:02

Wasn't there another occasion, more recently, when Goncalo changed his lawyer?  Kate was moaning outside the court that they'd have to arrange childcare again.  big grin

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Post by aquila on 21.11.15 9:08

There was also a delay as the judge had to attend to a personal matter.

Sorry, I don't have a link.

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Post by Doug D on 21.11.15 9:36

And Lawyers son ill/hospitalized 27/9/13:
 
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Cancelled_27_09_2013.htm

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Post by Amy Dean on 21.11.15 11:19

It does look as if there was only one delay which could be described as being GA's "fault".

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Post by joyce1938 on 21.11.15 11:37

Can't recall who exactly, but a Portugeuse person said at one time that it's not at all unusual for cases to go through to courts very slow pace.  Drive us all Madrid's here, eh?  It's possibly true.  joyce1938

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Post by aquila on 21.11.15 11:38

@Amy Dean wrote:It does look as if there was only one delay which could be described as being GA's "fault".
It doesn't look like anything. It looks like there is nothing reported on the 'libel' trial and there is no accurate reportage of exactly what has gone on in terms of delay to the trial.

I'd like jp to list the delays on both sides. I'm not interested in bashing anyone's opinion. I'm interested in getting to the truth.

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Post by willowthewisp on 21.11.15 11:46

May be April 2016, when Operation Grange would require a new account of funding to continue their investigation, now down to four officers and DCI Nichola Wall, "I nick em before they know they're nicked" not up to yet, Nichola?


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Post by jean-pierre.t50 on 21.11.15 13:01

@aquila wrote:
@Amy Dean wrote:It does look as if there was only one delay which could be described as being GA's "fault".
It doesn't look like anything. It looks like there is nothing reported on the 'libel' trial and there is no accurate reportage of exactly what has gone on in terms of delay to the trial.

I'd like jp to list the delays on both sides. I'm not interested in bashing anyone's opinion. I'm interested in getting to the truth.

Well the first delay was on the 11th December 2009. 

[color:ece1=000000]"From JdN 11 December 2009

Gonçalo Amaral's lawyer is in quarantine at home, after learning that an employee of his office has influenza A. António Cabrita has requested the postponement of the trial of the book "The Truth About The Lie."

The first session of the trial process against the book by the former coordinator of the Judicial Police, is scheduled for 9:30 pm today, at the 7th Circuit Court Civil Court of Lisbon, in the Courthouse. The prevention of Gonçalo Amaral's lawyer can dictate the postponement of the trial, which would then be likely to occur in about 21 days."

Adjourned to Jan 12 2010

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Post by jean-pierre.t50 on 21.11.15 13:19

Monday 16th June 2014.  Dr Amaral announced to the court on the day of the trial that he had sacked his lawyer Vitor Santos Olivera and applied for the case to be adjourned.

Do I need to go on?

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Post by jean-pierre.t50 on 21.11.15 13:30

January 2013.  Proceedings halted for 6 months while both parties attempt to reach an out of court settlement.

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Post by aquila on 21.11.15 13:30

@jean-pierre.t50 wrote:Monday 16th June 2014.  Dr Amaral announced to the court on the day of the trial that he had sacked his lawyer Vitor Santos Olivera and applied for the case to be adjourned.

Do I need to go on?
Please give a comprehensive list of all delays to the trial. This would help everyone.

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Post by Guest on 21.11.15 13:41

@jean-pierre.t50 wrote:January 2013.  Proceedings halted for 6 months while both parties attempt to reach an out of court settlement.
What is the point of this discussion?

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