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Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by Rogue-a-Tory on Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:20 pm

But the Channel 5 documentary The McCanns & The Conman covered the Halligan story. So I don't get it.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by roy rovers on Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:21 pm

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@roy rovers wrote:In the absence of a body the fraudulent fund is their Achilles heel. IMO.

In the absence of a scintilla of 'evidence' of an 'abduction', by anyone, and only, ONLY. their 'say so', it is their 'lies' that are their Achilles 'heel', imo.

Al Capone was behind the St Valentine's Day Massacre but they put him away for tax fraud not murder.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by xklamation on Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:39 pm

@Tony Bennett wrote:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6709337/100000-fraud-on-Maddie-McCann-search-fund.html


This looks like Kevin Halligen.

In which case these 'whistleblowers' have been lying low for 7 years!

What is new, however, is that the fraudster is alleged to have deliberately engaged in false accounting and forgery of hostel and travel receipts.

Whoever did this should be prosecuted.

I am not clear as to why the whistleblowers decided to hand their affidavits to Kate and Gerry, instead of to the police.

Once again, this raises issues as to the responsibility of the McCanns, the McCann Team and indeed all the Directors of the Find Madeleine Fund, who employed this man, for appointing him in the first place.

Given that the amount he defrauded came from pensioners who donated their weekly pensions amd children who donated their weekly pocket money, this is very serious. The Directors of the Find Madeleine Fund in fact face being disqualified from being Directors, as it looks like they cannot be trusted to run a company using due care and diligence. An investigation by Companies House is possible.

Perhaps our resident accountant, Enid O'Dowd, will be along to help and advise us?



It's not about Richard Halligen, it's about Método 3, imo. And if I'm correct about the M3 guess, the McCanns or the "Trust" directors already knew this at least as early as in Jan. 2014. And did nothing about it.

edited to add: The Sun article distorts the story (what a surprise eh?). The story goes: Two men, detectives formerly belonging to a detective agency hired by the Fund/Trust via BK on October 2007 (alleged in book), wrote a book that was published in 2014. That book was banned later that same year from a country's market by an injunction of the director of a now extinct detective agency, on the grounds of "breaching the confidentiality of the information" those detectives had gathered whilst working for that agency. That book is apparently back on the market. In the book there is a chapter regarding the investigation that detective agency did on Madeleine McCann disappearance. In that chapter (chapter 13, page 174) it is alleged the detective agency committed a fraud against the fund. The detectives, and book authors contacted BK and the "Trust" directors regarding the fraud, in early 2014. To much surprise of the detectives and book authors the "Trust" directors held a conference and decided to not take action, alleging they would "not meet" or "discuss" the investigations of any private investigation "whilst the MET continues their investigation".

If this is not the story the Sun is alleging to, sorry in advance.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by margaret on Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:24 pm

@melisande wrote:
parapono wrote:Looks as if 'the fund' is under scrutiny,
first CM reporting the parents moving money in
and out of 'the fund', now this.
Totally agree.  Sounds like pre-empting imo
We know the McCanns don't do anything without reason.  There must be a BIG reason to why they came off Twitter (okay so it was 'find Madeleine' but we know who was behind it).

I agree with both of you. Something will no doubt be coming out about the fund money and the McCanns want us to think it's concerning Kevin Halligen and not their own handling of the fund money.

I know it's not the general thought here but I think SY are bang on the money, so to speak.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by sonic72 on Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:53 pm

So man collect money for what he thinks is a charity 'fund', man finds out the money is going to a business pretending to be a charity and decides to keep the money himself!

What is the charge, not passing on donations to a private limited company?! LOL!

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by maebee on Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:43 pm

https://www.facebook.com/thesun/posts/1272234322803004

800+ comments from the general public. I've just read about 200 and can safely say that 99% of posters there DO NOT BELIEVE the McScams.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by ROSA on Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:04 am

Got to love whistle blowers since the fund is a fraud lets hope the right people get prosecuted one day the McScams and their cronies  bomb

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by sallypelt on Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:50 am

The Sun Monday, October 26, 2015.
By GARY O'SHEA and GERARD COUZENS

The fund to find Madeleine McCann was ripped off by up to £100,000, claim whistleblowers.
Documents alleging the huge fraud have been handed to her parents Kate
and Gerry .
It is claimed a person connected to the hunt for the three year old used
public donations to fund his own lifestyle. He is said to have duped the
McCanns into thinking the cash was spent looking for their daughter.
Two whistleblowers named the man in sworn affidavits which The Sun passed
to the couple. They allege false accounting and forgery of travel and hotel
receipts. One said "What made the fraud so disgusting was money came
from people who shed tears over her disappearance and wanted to do their
little bit" The fund was launched in May 2007 when Madeleine disappeared
from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz. It has raised more than £2million.
Backers include JK Rowling and David Beckham. There is no suggestion of any
wrongdoing by Kate or Gerry who thanked The Sun for the evidence. Last night
the McCanns spokesman said "Madeleine's Fund takes extremely seriously any
suggestion monies intended for the search have been obtained fraudulently.
Kate, Gerry and the other directors of Madeleine's Fund will co-operate fully with
authorities to ensure these claims are fully investigated".

What a strange thing to say. Why wouldn't they "co-operate fully"?

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Post by willowthewisp on Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:02 pm

It wasn't just one man who defrauded the" Find Madeleine McCann Fund" was it Clarence,Metodo 3,Kevin haligen,Henri Exton and any covert operations on  certain clients behalf,eh uncle Brian?

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by aquila on Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:11 pm

There are many ways to look at this.

Here's one simple view (I have a few other theories).

Someone defrauded the Madeleine Fund. It's already been reported. The McCann's either did/didn't pursue it (makes no difference to what I'm about to put forward).

A couple of whistleblowers make sworn affadavits and speak to The Sun.  The Sun newspaper hands over documents (not the affadavits - the Sun article made that clear) to the McCanns.

The McCanns now have no choice but to allow Scotland Yard to scrutinize their Fund.

Operation Grange is back in the game/going to continue for at least another two years.

Just one of my opinions on this.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by jeanmonroe on Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:42 pm

aquila wrote:
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There are many ways to look at this.

Here's one simple view (I have a few other theories).
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All 'purported' THEORIES, are 'WELCOME'

Quote:

Mr Gerry McCann has STATED publicly that he has absolutely NO problems, 'personally', with people PURPORTING 'theories' that they have.

Dr Gerald McCann said, UNDER OATH, to the Leveson enquiry.

"I would like to emphasise that I strongly believe in freedom of speech,.. I don’t have a problem with somebody purporting a theory, writing fiction, suggestions,.."
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JUST AS LONG AS IT IS 'NOT' G AMARAL'S........ 'FREEDOM OF SPEECH' AND 'THEORY', eh Gerry?

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Post by willowthewisp on Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:47 pm

Perhaps(I nick erm before they know they're knicked) DCI Nichola Wall may have already with her 36 colleagues, executed the probity of the Find Madeleine McCann fund?
The fragrant Rebekah Brooks back at the helm, just helping helping friends eg Leveson,Threat/persauded Dave of Operation Grange/Theresa May and now suddenly"Fraud detected"by S**m reporters,not the Police or other institutions?
Clarence, come and earn your retainer,ker ching?

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by jeanmonroe on Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:11 pm

@willowthewisp wrote:Perhaps(I nick erm before they know they're knicked) DCI Nichola Wall may have already with her 36 colleagues, executed the probity of the Find Madeleine McCann fund?
The fragrant Rebekah Brooks back at the helm, just helping helping friends eg Leveson,Threat/persauded Dave of Operation Grange/Theresa May and now suddenly"Fraud detected"by S**m reporters,not the Police or other institutions?
Clarence, come and earn your retainer,ker ching?

Maybe, maybe, there might, or maybe 'should', be an 'investigation' into Operation *'embarrassment' Grange regarding 'defrauding' the UK 'taxpayer'!

*'embarrassment'..........not my 'word' but the 'word' used by currently 'serving' MPS 'officers'!

£15 MILLION, of UK taxpayer money, and 'counting/rising', DAILY, by £6,778,  and 'not a clue' about the 'disappearance' of a 'child' 8 1/2 years ago..

NO 'evidence' of an 'abduction', by 'anyone', 'found' by OG, NO 'evidence' of 'foul play', by 'anyone', 'found' by OG, in short, NO NUFFING, 'found' by OG, after 4 1/2 YEARS of 'investigation' by 38 full time, elite, experienced, priviliged, solely dedicated, MPS 'staff and detectives'

What did/will the IO, at OG, DCI Wall, 'spend' the £6,778, of UK taxpayer 'money'. she 'received' TODAY, from the HO, on? TODAY!

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by j.rob on Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:17 pm

@maebee wrote:https://www.facebook.com/thesun/posts/1272234322803004

800+ comments from the general public. I've just read about 200 and can safely say that 99% of posters there DO NOT BELIEVE the McScams.


Fantastic!

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by j.rob on Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:40 pm

I notice that Pamela Gurney pops up again. Her posts can be seen in response to a post by Terri L Holt. The posts shown below are classics. Hasn't she read Kate's book? Kate writes that she believes that 'the abductor' drugged the twins on the night of the abduction as they were in such a deep sleep. Kate even checks their breathing for signs of life for heaven's sake!  Kate also writes that 'the abductor' may have tried to drug Madeleine that night before as she finds a stain on her pajama top plus Madeleine is very sleepy on Thursday.


The twins were only tested for drugs AFTER a long period of time when not only had their hair been cut but months had elapsed so the tests were likely to be useless. Of course Kate as an anesthetist and Gerry as a consultant would have known this.


LOL at this: "If drugs were administered it would have been by the abductors not the McCanns."  notme Classic TM! Love it.






PG:


I don't mean following by way of actual stalking I hasten to add but following the propagandists who lead these simple people into a world of conspiralunacy. I think the Sun could do well writing another very long article on the trolls who attack the Mccanns because it is dreadful to watch it.



The McCanns didn't refuse for the children to be tested. I think Gerry may have cancelled the test in the end but only, I assume, because as a Consultant Doctor he would know there were no signs of them being drugged and Kate as an anaesthetist probably knew that too once the children woke up. If drugs were administered it would have been by the abductors not the Mccanns and when the twins were tested weeks later by the Mccanns, had there been drugs in their system it would have shown up. No drugs were given IMO. Children have an ability to sleep through anything as I know personally from having had children and been one myself.


I doubt anyone, even the abductor cld get 2 or 3 children to take tablets without them choking or screaming the place down. Get real people and it's the hair the drugs remain detectable in.

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Why cannot TM even get a few simple 'facts' straight. At least read Kate's book which is apparently an account of the 'truth'.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by joyce1938 on Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:49 pm

Thinking back, I asked myself, why the heck didn't the Mcs ask for cash back from Metado 3, was it a form of money laundering? Some on mcf did wonder this at the time we heard of this scam about this?  The Mcs and co knew all this yonks ago, I believe, were they not annoyed? joyce1938

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by jeanmonroe on Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:24 pm

'snip' from Scum 'article'

Last night the McCanns spokesman said "Madeleine's Fund takes extremely seriously any suggestion monies intended for the search have been obtained fraudulently"

'monies INTENDED FOR the 'search' have BEEN 'OBTAINED' FRAUDULENTLY"?

'OBTAINED'?

A 'Freudian slip', 'typo'?

'somebody' (at Madeleine's 'fund'?) OBTAINED, FRAUDULENTLY, 'monies' FOR the 'search'?

If, IF, Madeleine's 'fund' was 'set up' and the McS 'knew' that Madeleine was 'deceased' BEFORE the 'fund' set up, then certainly they would have 'obtained, fraudulently' monies from OAP's, schoolkids, 'anyone', FOR a 'pretend SEARCH'

Maybe just me, being 'stoopid'.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by sallypelt on Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:32 pm

@jeanmonroe wrote:'snip' from Scum 'article'

Last night the McCanns spokesman said "Madeleine's Fund takes extremely seriously any suggestion monies intended for the search have been obtained fraudulently"

'monies INTENDED FOR the 'search' have BEEN 'OBTAINED' FRAUDULENTLY"?

'OBTAINED'?

A 'Freudian slip', 'typo'?

'somebody' (at Madeleine's 'fund'?) OBTAINED, FRAUDULENTLY, 'monies' FOR the 'search'?

Maybe just me, being 'stoopid'.

Ah, but Jean, fear not. "Gerry and Kate will co-operate fully" with any investigations. Now WHERE have I heard that saying, before thinking

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by sallypelt on Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:40 pm

http://portugalresident.com/amaral-supporters-plough-last-minute-money-into-legal-fund-as-uk-focuses-on-alleged-maddie-fraud

Posted by portugalpress on October 27, 2015
Amaral supporters plough last-minute money into legal fund as UK focuses on alleged Maddie fraud

Amaral supporters plough last-minute money into legal fund as UK focuses on alleged Maddie fraud
While the gofundme appeal buoying “Maddie cop” Gonçalo Amaral in his legal fight against the parents of Madeleine McCann is being temporarily wound down in Portugal, in UK news this week centres on an alleged fraud within the fund set up to find the missing child.

According to the Sun newspaper, whistleblowers have presented damning evidence pointing to a “person connected to the hunt” for Madeleine using “public donations to fund his own lifestyle”.

The Find Madeleine Fund has consequently been "ripped off" to the tune of over £100,000 - which Portuguese newspapers have translated as “almost €139,000”.

With the story echoing a similar fraud uncovered years ago and centring on a private detective hired by the McCanns, this latest UK-generated Madeleine story follows a weekend exposé in the [url=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/13/0/19/DealFrame/DealFrame.cmp?bm=252&BEFID=63715&acode=234&code=234&aon=&crawler_id=308235&dealId=BR-LCt7dilc1krfBth4BUQ%3D%3D&searchID=&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftracking.searchmarketing.com%2Fclick.asp%3Faid%3D120179140000328088&DealName=Saturday People%2C Sunday people&merchantid=308235&HasLink=yes&category=0&AR=-1&NG=1&GR=1&ND=1&PN=1&RR=-1&ST=&MN=msnFeed&FPT=SDCF&NDS=1&NMS=1&NDP=1&MRS=&PD=0&brnId=2455&lnkId=8070676&Issdt=151026050445&IsFtr=0&IsSmart=0&dlprc=25.99&SKU=9781594036392]Sunday People[/url], again covering ancient ground.

In Portugal meantime, the friends and supporters of Amaral have decided to pull the gofundme online appeal launched six months ago by a single mother from Birmingham who was only 14 when Madeleine went missing.

The last donations are still flowing in before the page is to be officially closed on Wednesday, October 28, having raised in excess of €73,000.

The official reason for closure was that supporters felt there was “largely sufficient” in the fund’s account to “face eventual future expenses”.

A source has since confirmed to the Resident that other forms of fundraising remain open, as the way ahead will almost certainly involve further appeals.

For now, the decision by judges at Lisbon’s Appellate Court on Amaral’s appeal against the €500,000-plus damages awarded against him in the civil action taken out by the McCanns over his book “A Verdade da Mentira” is due any day.

But the source explained to us that if the appeal is upheld - that is, if Amaral “wins” and at last sees his assets unfrozen after six years of litigation - “the McCanns will almost certainly appeal”.

“The next step would be an appeal to the Supreme Court, and then even to the Constitutional Court,” said the source.

And should Amaral lose the fight, which he feels centres on his right to freedom of expression, then a new online appeal will be needed to fund a case against Portuguese justice in the European Court of Human Rights.

As the Resident explained six months ago when 22-year-old Leanne Baulch set up the gofundme page, the British tabloid press vilified the bid, saying it was powered by “sick online trolls”.

Unpleasantness continued to the point where Ms Baulch - the single parent of a toddler - removed herself from the process altogether.

It was then that the page transferred to the friends of Amaral. But the unpleasantness is understood to have continued, with internet manipulation of the appeal’s online code so that a few weeks ago it virtually disappeared from sight.

In their announcement to the 2,791 subscribers sent out last Thursday, the group writing collectively said: “May we use this moment to wholeheartedly thank those who have expressed their support for Gonçalo Amaral’s right to an appropriate defence. Whether you have contributed financially or by sending a support message, you have made an impact. You have made a difference.”

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by jeanmonroe on Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:47 pm

@sallypelt wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:'snip' from Scum 'article'

Last night the McCanns spokesman said "Madeleine's Fund takes extremely seriously any suggestion monies intended for the search have been obtained fraudulently"

'monies INTENDED FOR the 'search' have BEEN 'OBTAINED' FRAUDULENTLY"?

'OBTAINED'?

A 'Freudian slip', 'typo'?

'somebody' (at Madeleine's 'fund'?) OBTAINED, FRAUDULENTLY, 'monies' FOR the 'search'?

Maybe just me, being 'stoopid'.

Ah, but Jean, fear not. "Gerry and Kate will co-operate fully" with any investigations. Now WHERE have I heard that saying, before thinking

WHAT KM 49 PJ 'questions'?

WHAT 'reconstruction' by T9?

Mitchell could hardly 'say', 'Gerry and Kate will NOT co-operate with any investigation' could he?


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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by pennylane on Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:09 pm

TM have hired one dodgy detective after another, after another, haven't they?  They need to seriously investigate the motives of their personnel officer



oh wait............ window

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by sharonl on Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:06 am


The timing of this article is so transparent.  They need funds for legal costs, just as they thought that they had Amaral beaten they face an appeal.  He gets a £50K + bonus to assist him whilst their funds are possibly dwindling.  Is this a cry for help, preying on public sympathy in the hope that some funds may just roll in?

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by Rogue-a-Tory on Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:45 am

@sharonl wrote:

The timing of this article is so transparent.  They need funds for legal costs, just as they thought that they had Amaral beaten they face an appeal.  He gets a £50K + bonus to assist him whilst their funds are possibly dwindling.  Is this a cry for help, preying on public sympathy in the hope that some funds may just roll in?
I believe you make a good point, the table have been turned. GA now has money for legal costs but the Mcs are running short. Plus I believe the shenanigans at Westminster that ties Tm into there are gradually being 'resolved' which will ultimately enable the political establishments to cut them adrift.

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Re: Man defrauded Find Madeleine Fund of £100,000 - Two whistleblowers have sworn affifdavits confirming the fraud (Sun, 26 Oct 2015)

Post by plebgate on Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:55 am

@sharonl wrote:

The timing of this article is so transparent.  They need funds for legal costs, just as they thought that they had Amaral beaten they face an appeal.  He gets a £50K + bonus to assist him whilst their funds are possibly dwindling.  Is this a cry for help, preying on public sympathy in the hope that some funds may just roll in?
If it is a case of trying to get more funds from the public they wont be getting any money from me that's for sure.   Not that I donated originally, but I believe there wont be too many  keen to donate again.  Why would they, two police teams working on the case until next spring at least?

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