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THE EXPENSIVE CHARADE CONTINUETH - £10.1 millions spent by Operation Grange to June 2015 - Another £2 million set aside for the current financial year

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Post by Angelique on Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:46 pm

Maybe SY think enough investigating has been carried out (Oh no, not those wretched files to read again!) for the public to subsidise "the 37" and won't stomach much more.

It must be time to clear the desks and say they did everything they could to find "something"?


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Post by comperedna on Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:15 am

Martin Roberts, in the most recent comment in    onlyinamerica.blogspot   has an interesting theory as to WHY the non-investigative investigation, and 'was there something else important going on in PDL at the time', and why police were keen to have holidaymakers send in their photos etc... It is just that...  only a theory ... I believe.

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Post by sallypelt on Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:34 am

Rather than close the case after spending over £10 million on it and having NOTHING to show for it, I say, spend another £10 million and get the truth. Spending £20 million for the truth is better than spending £10 million, with nothing to show for it.

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Post by worriedmum on Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:13 am

I wonder how much it would cost to do a reconstruction? Well within budget I would think...

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The expensive charade continues

Post by willowthewisp on Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:20 am

Hi Worriedmum,
Those good close friends gave statements to UK and PJ Police, but where the PJ Police sitting in on the interviews in the UK?
A certain person(s) claiming to have been in two places between 17.00 and 18.30pm on 3 May 2007, when caught on CCTV at Paradisio Beach Eaterie?
Those "Good close Fiends" who were on holiday with Madeleine and some stated seeing her alive and well on 3 May 2007 in 5A Ocean Club Apartment, then retracted going back to the Mark Warner/ Ocean Club Apartments to carry out a full reconstruction of the evening of the above date after confirming to PJ authorities they would take part???
So whose word would you trust in a Court of Law?

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Post by sallypelt on Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:51 am

Will the search for Madeleine McCann ever be successful? The missing child’s parents have reportedly been notified by authorities that the search for their daughter may only last for another stretch of six months, which could mean hope for finding her is dwindling to an all time low. The Daily Express reports that police have been granted a chunk of money to “solve” the disappearance of the British girl.
However, a stipulation apparently hangs over the 2 Million British Pounds granted to investigators. The search for Madeleine McCann is expected to wrap up in approximately six months. While the parents of the missing child are happy that the search will continue, it’s apparent that the search will cease operations in as early as Spring of 2016.
Over the course of more than a decade the search for little Maddie has cost British taxpayers an estimated 10.1 Million British Pounds.

Well, that knocks that article on the head, doesn't it? "Over the course of more than a decade". They don't even know what they are writing about.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2431357/madeleine-mccann-search-to-end-in-six-months/

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Post by Doug D on Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:15 am

Why do they make these stories up?
 
The £2m budgeting story came from a three line parliamentary written reply, with no mention of time limits, conditions, or an end to OG.
 
Wasn’t it Chelsea Hoffman who was going to publish yet another ‘definitive account’ of the case a few years ago?

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Post by aiyoyo on Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:15 am

@sallypelt wrote:. The Daily Express reports that police have been granted a chunk of money to “solve” the disappearance of the British girl.
While the parents of the missing child are happy that the search will continue, it’s apparent that the search will cease operations in as early as Spring of 2016.
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Their official spokesperson, Clarence Mitchell, reports that large chunk of the Fund has been set aside for private search when the official search is closed.

They already assumed the official search and full scale alleged "murder" investigation will come up empty handed.


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Post by aiyoyo on Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:17 am

@Doug D wrote:Why do they make these stories up?
 
The £2m budgeting story came from a three line parliamentary written reply, with no mention of time limits, conditions, or an end to OG.
 
Wasn’t it Chelsea Hoffman who was going to publish yet another ‘definitive account’ of the case a few years ago?

The winding down bit came from team McCann presumably.
Would Grange have told them that?  Extremely unlikely !
What seems certain is that Grange is not searching for a living child.
Whatever the "something be" - intangible as in faith in a resolution, or something tangible as in strong evidence to support a resolution, to convince Home Office to continue to fund it, it seems Home Office bought the "something" Grange sold to them.

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Post by worriedmum on Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:41 am

The more I think about it, the stranger it seems that there has been no reconstruction(As far as we know) by the British police force. Why on earth not?

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Post by aiyoyo on Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:11 am

@worriedmum wrote:The more I think about it, the stranger it seems that there has been no reconstruction(As far as we know) by the British police force. Why on earth not?


Too late for a reconstruction IMO, but they should have made the Crime Watch close to a reconstruction.
Reconstruction using involved parties would only alert the Mcs & friends to get themselves armed with lawyers ....
Not that they can refuse to go back to PDL if asked by SY, without making them look suspicious, but the media frenzy would be uncontainable /uncontrollable and will probably jeopardise investigators future steps...


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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:13 pm

"The McCanns are extremely grateful, that the inquiry will go on"

What complete & utter tosh. For anyone else that had lost a daughter they wouldn't be extremely grateful that the inquiry continues, they'd be apoplectic with rage that the world's greatest detectives were about to give up in 6 months without a single sniff in nearly 4 years. They'd demand a public inquiry, questions to the home/foreign secretary, an investigation by the media. But not the McCs. eek

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Post by jeanmonroe on Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:45 pm

"The McCanns are extremely grateful, that the inquiry will go on"
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Surely,

"The McCanns are extremely grateful, that the ongoing, never ending, OG cover up inquiry will go on"

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Post by Grande Finale on Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:54 am

@worriedmum wrote:The more I think about it, the stranger it seems that there has been no reconstruction(As far as we know) by the British police force. Why on earth not?

Quite simple,

You can't reconstruct something that hasn't happened !

(I think the Mcca's found this out to their cost in the "Mockumentary" farce"

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Post by Tony Bennett on Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:45 pm

@Grande Finale wrote:
(I think the Mcca's found this out to their cost in the "Mockumentary" farce"
Which 'Mockumentary' farce?

Was it:

1. Panorama, BBC, 19 Nov 2007?

or

2. The Channel 4/Mentorn Media documentary, 7 May 2009?

or

3. BBC Crimewatch McCann Special, 14 October 2013?

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Post by Joss on Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:42 pm

@jeanmonroe wrote:"The McCanns are extremely grateful, that the inquiry will go on"
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Surely,

"The McCanns are extremely grateful, that the ongoing, never ending, OG cover up inquiry will go on"
Exactly. It's all so transparent IMO.

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Post by woodbine on Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:53 pm

So assuming a standard officer on the case is paid circa £30k, 40 officers for 6 months = roughly £600,000.
No extra expenses for them since they are apparently just sat around ignoring the obvious.

Where does the other £1.4m go?

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The charade continues

Post by willowthewisp on Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:28 pm

Hi Woodbine,
Ruperts cohorts will be busy trying their hardest to stop the case from running it's course or have it shelved as this would suit there requirements, just take a look at the Crowns non prosecution of the people involved in the Daniel Morgan Murder 10 March 1987?
NoTW sticky little fingers, eh Rupert?

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Post by Doug D on Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:11 am

Don’t think this is anything new, but a Met Police F.O.I. disclosure for w/e 13th September 2015 just published:
 
We don’t know who has requested it and it is just the same info previously disclosed iirc.
 
 Freedom of Information Request Reference No:
 
I note you seek access to the following information:
 
Please can you confirm the total cost to date of the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
 
DECISION
 
I have today decided to disclose the located information to you in full.
 
The costs incurred by the Metropolitan Police Service’s investigation (Operation Grange) are:
£1.9m for 2011/2012, £2.8m for 2012/2013, £2.6m for 2013/2014 and £2.4m for 2014/2015
Therefore total is £9.7m.
 
The costs for 2015/2016 are anticipated to be broadly in line with those of previous years.
 
Information Rights Unit

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Post by loopzdaloop on Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:22 am

Its  disingenious to call it a charade and considering this is one of the most famous cases the money is well spent. Individuals have been unable to take on this case due to the disparity in arms. If operation Grange shuts down they would have certainly got away with it. Its noteworthy that £1000 was given by MPS to amarals crowdfund. Im not sure what people otherwise expect of a case such as this? That there has been no leaks and the Mccanns aren't yet running for cover is a good thing. They will be interviewed when all the ducks are in a row.

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The meaning of disingenuous

Post by Tony Bennett on Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:16 pm

@loopzdaloop wrote:It's disingenious [sp. disingenuous] to call it a charade and considering this is one of the most famous cases the money is well spent. Individuals have been unable to take on this case due to the disparity in arms. If Operation Grange shuts down they would have certainly got away with it. It's noteworthy that £1000 was given by MPS to Amaral's crowdfund. I'm not sure what people otherwise expect of a case such as this? That there has been no leaks and the McCanns aren't yet running for cover is a good thing. They will be interviewed when all the ducks are in a row.
@ loopzasaloop        I think you meant 'disingenuous' rather than 'disingenious'.

But I think you used the wrong word.

Here are some of the definitions of 'disingenuous' on the internet:

* not really honest or sincere, and only pretending to be

* Use the adjective disingenuous to describe behavior that's not totally honest or sincere.

* lacking in candoru; also :  giving a false appearance of simple frankness :  calculating - insincere, dishonest, untruthful, false, deceitful, duplicitous, lying, mendacious;

* lacking sincerity

* Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

* hypocritical - artful- distorted, misrepresented, perverted, twisted

* having an intended meaning altered or misrepresented

* insincere

++++++++++++++++++

Now, people may, if they wish, say that they think I am plain wrong in calling Operation Grange 'an expensive charade'.

But not one person could possibly deny that it is a view I have honestly and sincerely held, and stuck to, since the day Rupert Murdoch's News International CEO, Rebekah Brooks, threatened the Prime Minister into setting it up.  

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You wrote:  "The money [on Operation Grange] is well spent. That...the McCanns aren't yet running for cover is a good thing. They will be interviewed when all the ducks are in a row".

REPLY: I couldn't disagree more. To believe that, you would have to believe that all the following were con-artists:

1. The Prime Minister when he said that Grange was to 'help the family'
2. DCS Hamish Campbell (of Barry George notoriety) who established that the Grange remit was to 'help the family', and
3. DCI Redwood, who repeatedly told the public: 'The McCanns and their Tapas 7 friends are not suspects'.

Where your faith in Operation Grange comes from I just cannot comprehend

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The expensive charade continues

Post by willowthewisp on Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:23 pm

Hi Tony Bennett,
Completely agree with your comments to Loopzdaloop about "Operation Grange" on who it was to assist remit abduction?
Rupert's cohorts have their fingerprints of involvement in the Madeleine McCann obfuscation? 
In the search for the Truth, just take a look at who was involved in the cover up of the Daniel Morgan Murder in London and the involvement of Police officers receiving gifts from a certain proprietors Editors to grease the oily palms for stories?
I wonder if the SIO Hamish Campbell in Operation Grange would appear, along with Andy Coulson,Rebekah Brooks, David Cameron and good old Rupert, with his spin meisters of deception?
Alex Cameron defended fragrant Rebekah in the phone hacking trial and his brother, Dave met on Rupert's yacht, along with Peter Mandelson before final decisions reached on BSkyB deal?
"Oh what a web we weave in order to deceive"?

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Sudden news - Operation Grange to be scaled down

Post by comperedna on Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:11 am

3pm - Wed 28 October - Brunty has just been on Sky News confirming that the McCann investigation is to be radically scaled down. Only 4 officers will now work on it. Huge amounts of money has been spent and no arrests have been made etc etc

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Post by noddy100 on Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:21 am

I though 2 million had been set aside?

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