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Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by Doug D on 30.07.15 16:56

What a strange case.
 
So Ben Fellows is not guilty of trying to pervert the course of justice, but this does not imply his allegations were true, although he stated in Court yesterday that he stood by them.
 
I suppose this has to go back into the Met Police ‘Fairbank’ pot again now, unless they have already decided that KC is squeaky clean.

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by BlueBag on 30.07.15 16:57

Is this bad for Ken Clarke?

I don't like that slime.

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by Doug D on 30.07.15 17:20

'Bad?'

Don't think so particularly, although suspicions must remain.

I'd like to read the Judge's full summing up.

It would obviously have been better for him for a guilty verdict, as that would have been spun to say all the allegations were false, but this verdict does not imply that they are true, so as with the rest of the Fairbank cases it will just run and run until everybody is dead.

The verdict is purely based on whether Fellows was trying to pervert the course of justice by making his accusations (which he still stands by) and jury has decided he wasn't.

I posted snippets of the case from Exaro tweets on the:

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t6422p410-operation-fernbridge-timebomb-at-elm-guest-house#318158

thread, which are just odd, to say the least.

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by Doug D on 30.07.15 19:06

Listening to BBC Radio 4 news just now it reported he had been cleared of ‘perverting the course of justice by making up’ a story about Kenneth Clark.
 
So BBC is reporting that he made up the story about KC.
 
The BBC web report does not say this but:
 
‘When officers checked out his version of events, they concluded they were false and began treating him as a suspect rather than a victim’.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-33724010
 
However yesterday in Court, Fellows said he stood by his allegations against KC.
 
Hopefully, we will get to see the Court transcripts in the next day or so.

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Court clears actor of Perverting the Course of Justice

Post by willowthewisp on 31.07.15 10:10

Hi DougD and fellow posters.
Any one care to ask Alison Saunders as to why the Tax payers money has once again been spent on a court case, where the Accuser has been found not guilty of the charges levelled at them?
Was it being used as a conduit to try to stem the flow of information being disclosed to the public, as if Mr Ben Fellows had been found guilty, the MSM would certainly not have refrained from printing headlines of "False Claims of abuse"!!
I would point out that at the time of the incident,Mr Fellows was not a child, but an Adult, whereas the"child abuse" was carried out in a systematic manner over an elongated period and well organised!!?
I would also point out that none of the main broadcasters had the charges dismissed in any of their programmes headline news, wasn't this worthy?
At the time the case collapsed 30 July 2015, what were the MSM headlines by the Prime Minister,"Swamping of migrants" throughout Europe and what do the Leaders of Europe propose, we'll have a meeting in five moths time about the crisis, distraction headlines, hiding bad news?

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by BlueBag on 31.07.15 11:58

So... he wasn't perverting the course of justice.

But... he was lying.

So... he's let off because....?

He's insane?

This makes no sense.

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by Doug D on 31.07.15 16:22

.     ExaroNews ‏‪@ExaroNews 22m22 minutes ago

Ben Fellows verdict: for those still struggling to get their heads round it, a four-tweet summary of what it does – and does not – mean…
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.     ExaroNews ‏‪@ExaroNews 14m14 minutes ago

1. Ben Fellows is NOT guilty of attempt to pervert course of justice by making his claim about Ken Clarke to police
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.     ExaroNews ‏‪@ExaroNews 11m11 minutes ago

2. That was all the jury had to determine. The verdict does NOT mean that the claim made by Ben Fellows was true
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.     ExaroNews ‏‪@ExaroNews 9m9 minutes ago

3. And the verdict does NOT mean that any of the witnesses from The Cook Report was lying.
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ExaroNews
‏‪@ExaroNews

4. Defence case was: DCI Paul Settle PRESSURED Ben Fellows into making statement, having given him false assurances.
 
‪http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5622/ben-fellows-cleared-of-attempting-to-pervert-course-of-justice …
 
.     Sons of Liberty ‏‪@TheSonsUK 12m12 minutes ago
‪@ExaroNews equally doesn’t mean it was untrue either. No judgement was made upon that.
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.     ExaroNews ‏‪@ExaroNews 8m8 minutes ago

. ‪@TheSonsUK Sons of Liberty, yes, that is correct.

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Post by willowthewisp on 01.08.15 12:02

Hi Dougd,
I have read the Exaro news article on Ben Fellows trail and it would seem as though the Exaro Journalists report findings from cases properly, which just shows how bent the MSM really are with their hidden agenda?
The Trail was,"Perverting the Course of Justice"?
One of the Lead investigating officers was,"misleading the Accuser" with details of a different nature,(JL making a pornographic film) which was described by the officer as gaining the confidence of the accuser in this case?
Isn't this the same as, "Perverting the case of Justice" if you are misleading a witness to make a false claim of what happened, or did the actual act happen in this trail?
It would seem as though the Judge must have been made aware of what had happened with the "Original Cook Report" Ian Greer and the John Major Government, present angelic, teflon coated Prime Minister David Cameron?

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by Richard IV on 01.08.15 13:11

Ben Fellowes update on UK Column yesterday 31st (from about 5 min onwards).

http://www.ukcolumn.org/

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Post by willowthewisp on 01.08.15 16:07

Hi Richardiv,
I have just watched part of the video on BF and the non disclosure of the result of the case by the MSM, I think they would still be crowing if the result was the other way round?
What I found alarming was the Government had made over 12600 payments for compensation to victims of childhood abuse from the Criminal Compensation Scheme and had sanctioned 438 reduced payments, as they may have had convictions for Drug or Alcohol abuse?
Ergo,if the state had cared for them in the first place, the state would not need to cover compensation to 12600 young children that had suffered abuse, also note that these figures hidden from the public unless you trawl the proper news channels!!
So the Government "Acknowledge" that there has been over 12600 young people/children possibly abused by a guilty party but no where near 12600 offenders prosecuted!!
Also worrying is the fact of the Police not being able to find evidence on Cyril Smith and cohorts and simply closed the files down on future investigations of the case,Closed?

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Post by willowthewisp on 02.08.15 14:32

So KC has a possible further investigation into possible groping allegations but the accuser has stated  any investigation not to be carried out by the Metropolitan Police Force, note what KC said to the jury, not groping a man, but what about boys?

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by Richard IV on 02.08.15 15:04

@willowthewisp wrote:Hi Richardiv,
I have just watched part of the video on BF and the non disclosure of the result of the case by the MSM, I think they would still be crowing if the result was the other way round?
What I found alarming was the Government had made over 12600 payments for compensation to victims of childhood abuse from the Criminal Compensation Scheme and had sanctioned 438 reduced payments, as they may have had convictions for Drug or Alcohol abuse?
Ergo,if the state had cared for them in the first place, the state would not need to cover compensation to 12600 young children that had suffered abuse, also note that these figures hidden from the public unless you trawl the proper news channels!!
So the Government "Acknowledge" that there has been over 12600 young people/children possibly abused by a guilty party but no where near 12600 offenders prosecuted!!
Also worrying is the fact of the Police not being able to find evidence on Cyril Smith and cohorts and simply closed the files down on future investigations of the case,Closed?

Yes it`s flaming sickening that these young boys lives were destroyed by these establishment vermin and then, they are punished again for being destroyed. wft  I think something will be done about it because it has been reported on Radio 4 (unusual for them). I`m sure there will be a lot of complaints about the Cyril Smith investigation being closed as well - surely they can`t do that as there is plenty of evidence, i.e. witness statements from many people.

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Post by willowthewisp on 05.08.15 14:04

Hi it seems a tad convenient of the Ted Heath and four Police forces,IPCC investigations, the Police already know what information they had years ago, trawls Rupert's newspaper headlines for information?
Note how only One newspaper,Exaro asked the judge to lift the banning order on pre-trail evidence and the possible involvement of KC groping a 14 yr old boy, Yorkshire Police to investigate claim?
Now Yorkshire Police will not confirm as to whether or not what cases they are investigating, but prior to the trial it was thought pertinent to withhold any pre-trail evidence in the Ben Fellows case, that could prejudice the Jury?
Dead men tell no tales and cannot refute claims of abuse, but there will be evidence hidden some where as to guilty or not guilty of involvement of abuse.

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Re: Court clears actor who accused Kenneth Clarke of sexual assault

Post by jeanmonroe on 05.08.15 16:47

So, am i reading this right?

Actor IS 'cleared' by a 'jury'

And

MP Ken Clarke NOT 'cleared' (of 'allegations') by.........a 'jury', or indeed..... 'anyone'

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