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***NEW*** Decomposed child's body found in suitcase in South Australia was NOT Madeleine McCann - OFFICIAL (was: Bones found in South Australia)

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Post by thetruthbeknown on 29.07.15 0:05

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Hardly surprising. 

Rightly or wrongly,SY yard seem to have some interest.
Because they have to, no other reason, all the evidence doesnt fit. This case is some poor child, god knows what their fate was, but my educated guess, is its not Maddie :/ RIP little one, whoever you are xxxx

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Post by Letterwriter on 29.07.15 0:07

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@Letterwriter wrote:10 pages of speculation as to whether this body might be Madeleine?

Is this going to happen every time a child's remains are found?  Even if they are found at the other side of the world.

As much as I like and respect this forum, I do feel that it is prone to flights of fancy that do its credibility no favours.
People are entitled to their opinion and as there are so many members of this forum, 10 pages is nothing!

I absolutely agree that people are entitled to their opinion.  I was just saying that.....well, you've read what I wrote.

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Post by Richard IV on 29.07.15 0:19

@ letterwriter - I think its the fact that this particular skeleton is:

1. thought to have died in 2007, 
2. was caucasian, 
3. had fair hair and 
4. is 90 - 95 cms in height
5. a little girl

that alarm bells rang with posters.  

It was also those pink trousers that attracted my attention initially, which now turn out to be slightly different from Maddies.

But as more info comes to light it seems less and less likely to be her.

But we all love a crime mystery here it seems.

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Post by notlongnow on 29.07.15 0:25

@thetruthbeknown wrote:
@notlongnow wrote:


Hardly surprising. 

Rightly or wrongly,SY yard seem to have some interest.
Because they have to, no other reason, all the evidence doesnt fit. This case is some poor child, god knows what their fate was, but my educated guess, is its not Maddie :/ RIP little one, whoever you are xxxx


Indeed,hope they can find out the childs name and give a final resting place for her and maybe eliviate some of the families pain.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 29.07.15 1:01

@notlongnow wrote:
@thetruthbeknown wrote:notlongnow..I still dont see it...I do feel for this poor child, and her family..but dont see the connection...Maddie didnt go 'missing' with those clothes, and I dont believe in a suitcase to Aussie either...call me stupid if you like, but for people like me that have gone through finer detail for the past 8 years, it just doesnt fit??
Indeed,but i guess if they are going with abduction then the abductor may have changed the childs clothes,blanket etc...
Makes no sense i know,but not much does in this case does.

I do find it strange that someone that has hid a body for around 8 years has all of a sudden done this and not just buried the suitcase.
Regarding MM and the abduction theory, then any abductor (one with the intention of bringing her up as their own child that is) would have had to provide clothes because none of MM's clothes were missing other than her pyjamas.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 29.07.15 1:07

@Letterwriter wrote:10 pages of speculation as to whether this body might be Madeleine?

Is this going to happen every time a child's remains are found?  Even if they are found at the other side of the world.

As much as I like and respect this forum, I do feel that it is prone to flights of fancy that do its credibility no favours.
 
On this occasion the description given by police is similar to that of MM, around the same age, same height, similar hair colour, also disappeared around the same time. Plus the Australian police cannot match this skeleton to any of the missing children in their files.

So IMO the police should consider the possibility this might be her (although unlikely)

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Post by Doug D on 29.07.15 10:23

Wot no Australian beano for the OG team!
 
'The officer in charge of the SA Police Major Crime Investigation Branch, Detective Superintendent Des Bray today said that 43 children had now been eliminated as potential victims.
 
"I can confirm that Madeleine McCann has been totally excluded as a potential victim and UK Police have been advised," he said. "Task Force Mallee has no further comment to make about this line of inquiry."


http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2015/07/29/south-australia-polices-detective-superintendent/
 
I suppose the Mirror and Star can still run for a few days with some ‘could have been’ and ‘what if’ stories though.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 29.07.15 11:48

New clues in murdered 'suitcase girl' case as web sleuth mums identify fashion brand of toddler's black tutu dress, an 'I-spy quilt' and what was thought to be a 'child's ruler' as a Lanza luggage tag

  •  Mothers on a blog have identified the black tutu found with the bones of a murdered young girl 

  • The skeleton of the girl was found dumped with a suitcase of clothing on a highway near a remote outback South Australian town

  • Police released photos of the tutu, a slipper, a suitcase and a faded quilt

  • Quilters are steadily identifying the patchwork fabric which they say was sold at Spotlight outlets

  • They identify it as an 'I-spy' quilt used with kids in the game of the same name 


By CANDACE SUTTON FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA
PUBLISHED: 05:47, 29 July 2015 UPDATED: 09:10, 29 July 2015


        

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A group of mothers on the 'websleuths' online forum have uncovered new clues in the case of the murdered 'suitcase girl' whose remains were dumped with a bag of children's clothing by the side of the road in a remote outback railway siding town.
In a discussion on a websleuths.com forum, the women have identified the distinctive black tutu adorned with large sequins as a Cotton On brand dress for young girls which was discontinued several years ago.
The keen-eyed blog posters also identified the item originally described as a child's ruler as a Lanza brand luggage tag, probably from the faded bag in which the remains lay amid numerous items of clothing, and a patchwork quilt found in a degraded state as an 'I-spy' quilt.



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When one woman blogger named Pheme on the websleuths.com online forum spotted this distinctive little girls' black tutu dress, she knew it was the same model as the one she had bought her daughter from Cotton On and that it had been made a few years ago 




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Pheme's discovery sparked Snoop Dog on the websleuth forum to track down this ebay image of the black tutu dress with its distinctive cross-stitched large sequins, which differ in colour to a few of the sequins on the found dress, perhaps because of the garment's degradation lying for weeks in the open on an outback road


Keen amateur sleuths like Snoop Dog (who posted this on websleuth) are busily trying to solve the mystery of where the clothing found with the murdered girl's body might come from, thus leading detectives closer to the identification of the skeletal remains of the 2 to 4-year-old dumped by an outback highway in July




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Thought at first to be a child's ruler, the metallic object above was soon identified on websleuth.com as actually coming from a suitcase, which police then identified as a Lanza brand piece of luggage


Spotted: websleuth poster astorytold (above) promptly identified the 'child's ruler' as a luggage label for the Lanza brand, which was sold by the shop Strandbags but seems to be no longer widely available




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The Lanza logo with its distinctive diagonal motif belongs to a brand of luggage which appears to be no longer  widely available which fits in with the South Australian police estimated date of the murder of the little girl dumped with the suitcase, possibly as far back as 2007


This websleuth blogger also recognised the black tutu, saying her daughter wore a similar garment until she was about four years old, placing the item in the age framework put forward by police who believe the murdered girl was a preschooler of Caucasian appearance with fair hair and about 90cm tall




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This weather-beaten suitcase (above) was dumped by the Karoonda highway and lay there for weeks until a passer by stopped and and inspected it, along with children's clothes among which was the skeleton of an unidentified murdered girl




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An original Lanza brand suitcase (pictured) which SA police presented at a press conference about the continuing investigation into the murdered 'suitcase girl' dumped 120km south-east of Adelaide

Online speculation has been rife since South Australian police revealed the discovery of the bag with the skeleton of a young girl who police say died 'a violent and terrible death'.
The bones, which police say belong to a girl aged between two and four years old who died up to eight years ago, were found dumped on the Karoonda Highway about 2km west of Wynarka in South Australia.
A tiny railway siding township 120km south-east of Adelaide, Wynarka lies on the truck route between the South Australian grain belt and Port Adelaide.
Residents living in the handful of houses at Wynarka noticed a 'mystery man' carrying a suitcase on the Karoonda Highway on April 13 and May 26. The man was about 60 years old, of Caucasian appearance, average height, lightly built, clean cut and neatly dressed.




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When SA Police released this image of this badly degraded but colourful quilt found with the child's body, quilters quickly went to work identifying seven of the fabrics used in the hexagonal patches, including the 'musical note' material in the border which was sold at Spotlight fabric outlet some years ago




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Exact matches: The musical note and pumpkin patterned fabrics were identically matched by police with help from the public, and quilting experts have spread the word through mothers' quilting groups and online forums which have lit up with discussions by people keen to solve the mystery of the dead girl's origins


Quilters took to the SA Police Facebook page to write about the 'musical note' fabric and to say they had passed on the mystery information to their mother's quilting group in the hope of helping to crack the case




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Can you fill in the gaps?: Seven hexagonal squares out of 25 plus the border in the degraded quilt (left) have had their fabric positively identified (right), with the star material being a Spotlight fabric possibly made in the US, and readers eagerly trying to match up the faded remnants with textile patterns they know


Another clue: Mellisa Preusker, writing on the police Facebook page, is still trying to identify the more faded patchwork pieces in the degraded quilt found with the murdered girl's body, believing one to depict a unicorn


Daniella Erin thought the same patch believed to be 'a unicorn' was possibly a cartoon face of a lady, perhaps a Lorelei, but while she recognises it she cannot 'for the life of me' pin down where she knows it from

On July 15, a motorist who claimed they were 'drawn to something on the side of the road', found a faded suitcase lying open with clothing and other items scattered nearby close to the road and near a set of low bushes dotting the landscape.
When police investigated, they noticed a jawbone poking through piles of children's clothing.
Stuffed into a 40cm wide weather-beaten case, in between a Dora the Explorer t-shirt and pink tracksuit pants, a pink toweling slipper, black tutu dress and satin Size 2 boxer shorts with kittens and teddy bears on them, were the skeletal remains of a child.
Forensic officers who examined the bones say the girl was between two-and-a-half and four years old, Caucasian with fair hair and could have died up to eight years ago.



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The skeleton of the murdered girl was found in a suitcase dumped on the Karoonda Highway near Wynarka (above), a tiny railway siding township 120km south-east of Adelaide, lying on the truck route between the South Australian grain belt and Port Adelaide




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Residents living in the handful of houses at Wynarka noticed a 'mystery man' carrying a suitcase on the Karoonda Highway on April 13 and May 26. The man was about 60 years old, of Caucasian appearance, average height, lightly built, clean cut and neatly dressed 




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The folorn sight of a little girl's pink slipper (left)  found with the slain child's remains has sparked no matches to date, with Daily Mail Australia finding only the French slipper (right) for 0-18 month old girls strikingly similar in design but with a 'Hello Kitty' motif inbstead, suggesting the butterfly slipper may be a copy

The gap between the estimated time of the girl's terrible death and the dumping of her remains fits in with what the websleuth bloggers have deduced about the origins of the clothing.
Police released photographs of the black tutu dress, the pink slipper embroidered with a butterfly motif, a smiley-faced T-shirt, what they originally thought was 'a child's ruler', two pairs of boxer shorts made from the teddy bear and kitten patterned fabric, and the faded suitcase.
The photographs sparked excited chatter among the websleuth bloggers who quickly identified the 'child's ruler' as the plastic tag from a Lanza brand bag, with its distinctive diagonal logo.
They moved on to the issue of  the black tutu dress, which also had a distinctive feature of large coloured sequins cross-sewn onto the tulle skirt of the garment.
The amateur sleuthing of the blogger mum and others who have posted on a police Facebook page place the clothing or fabric as dating back to at least seven years ago, tying in with the date SA police estimate the child was murdered.
Websleuth blogger Pheme quickly identified the tutu dress as 'from a store called Cotton On. My daughter had the same one when she was about 2. Not sure how long they stocked it for though or even if they still do'.

The murdered girl in the suitcase


Found: On July 15 on the outback Karoonda Highway near Wynarka, 120km south-east of Adelaide
Sighting: 60-year-old clean cut, well-dressed Caucasian man seen April-May carrying a suitcase on the highway
The victim: 
  • Believed to be a girl who died 'a violent and terrible death'
• Aged 2.5-4 years at time of death 
• Likely Caucasian
• Had fair hair, 18cm long
• Was 90-95cm tall
• Was killed at another location
• Was killed some time since the start of 2007
Items found with the skeletal remains of the victim:
Black sequinned tutu dress, pink slipper with butterfly motif, Dora the Explorer outfit, boxer shorts, patchwork quilt and a Lanza brand suitcase

Snoop Dog responded, finding a photograph on ebay of an almost identical black tutu made by the Australian clothing giant Cotton On.
The only difference was the large cross-sewn sequins were of a single pale pink colour, whereas on the tutu found with the slain child, some of the sequins appeared blue or green, but this could have been as a result of the weathering which has also seen the deteriorated black bodice of the outfit lose much of its colour.
Daily Mail Australia has also identified a pink slipper, strikingly similar in design of the found item, but with a 'Hello Kitty' motif instead of the embroidered butterfly design. 
Police then released a photograph of a badly degraded, colourful quilt, and quilters lit up the South Australian Police Facebook page with a discussion about the origin of the fabric squares in the quilt design.
Following this, the SA Police released a further image of the 90cm square quilt along with seven octagonal patches identified by their fabric, featuring musical notes, stars, teddies, a camel, pumpkins, flowers, insects and animals.
Detective Superintendent Des Bray, the officer in charge the SA Police Major Crime Investigation Branch, said the identified quilt patches included the pumpkin design and the musical notes border, which were an exact match, and the other fabric patches were a close likeness.
Supt Bray said the images of the items found with the girls' remains had sparked a massive public response.
On the SA Police Facebook page, quilter Emma Stenhouse wrote that the kind of quilt in the photo released by SA Police was often called an 'I-spy' quilt as they could be used with children playing the I-spy game.
Emilee Egeberg went to Google images and wrote on the Facebook page that she had found a product called an 'I spy kids quilt' from 2008, which had the exact musical note fabric in some of its patches.



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Could this 'I-spy' quilt be made by the same quilt maker who produced the degraded item found with the body of the murdered girl dumped by the South Australian highway in July?


After Facebook poster Emma Stenhouse identified the quilt as possibly from a series of patchwork quilts called 'I-spy' used in the game of the same name played with children, Emilee Egeberg wrote (above) that she went on to Google images to find a quilt with the exact musical note and star fabric of the found item

Heather Symons wrote that the musical note fabric had been around 20 years ago, sold by the Spotlight fabric outlet, and that the star fabric was from the same series.
Emma Rains shared the information with 'my Mum's patchwork group', saying 'someone must know something'.
Speculation that the fabric from the United States, meaning the quilt was possibly American-made, was quashed by the SA police, who said the fabric was probably imported from the US and sold here.
Other posters on the police Facebook page, who are taking a closer look at the patchwork designs, may come up with further clues.
Mellissa Preusker thought she could identify the '2nd hexagon from the right, top row. Looks like a "Unicorn" fabric with a white unicorn head (facing to the left) and pink background. Seems familiar, but not sure where i have seen it.'
Daniella Erin wrote on the page that she recognised the 'cartoon face of a lady ... but for the life of me I can;t figure out from where. Maybe a Loralie design?!? I'm hoping somebody else does. It's been driving me nuts.' 
SA Police are continuing their investigation and say they have excluded 32 missing children as the potential victim.
Anyone who has any information that may assist the investigation, is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or report online at https://sa.crimestoppers.com.au/
candace.sutton@mailonline.com 




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Post by Joss on 29.07.15 14:11

Wonder if they have 100% ruled out Madeleine McCann from DNA testing? Although it doesn't say Why they have definitely ruled out MBM, i can't think why else they are so sure it isn't her?

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Post by Joss on 29.07.15 15:22

Is this a McCann site? No one is disrespecting the feelings of anyone, and people are trying to help the SAPol with their investigation into who this child could be. Discussing the case is a good thing as it puts the word out there on social media and could jog someone's memory. Everyone wants to help and try and give the little child back their identity as to who she could be, and surely that would be some type of closure for her family. It is odd that she wasn't reported missing according to SAPol. and there is no one else fitting the child's description who is missing.

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Post by Bishop Brennan on 30.07.15 8:02

I wonder if we can expect SY to "not rule out" that Madeleine could be amongst the wreckage of MH370 now that it is once again back in the news headlines?  

What a laughing stock they are.  How far they have fallen in the eyes of the public and indeed the world.

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Post by NickE on 30.07.15 18:28

The Mirror 28/7
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-british-cops-test-6155035
........................................."Fair-haired Maddie was aged three, nearly four, when she vanished from a Portuguese holiday apartment in May 2007.
Cops in Oz say the victim could have died eight years ago.
Maddie’s DNA profile is made up of 19 different components.
Fifty per cent of her genetic make-up is shared with each of her parents.
Kate and Gerry have both given DNA samples to help forensic scientists in the search for their daughter."
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Post by jeanmonroe on 31.07.15 12:35

http://mobile.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/more-police-to-investigate-girls-murder/story-e6frfku9-1227464853936

More police to investigate girl's murder
From: AAP
July 31, 2015 2:11PM
MORE officers have been added to a police taskforce investigating the discovery of a young girl's skeletal remains in South Australia.

ANOTHER five staff have been added to taskforce Mallee, taking its numbers to 20, as police continue to try to identity the murder victim - a fair-haired girl aged between two-and-a-half and four.

Her remains were found dumped in scrub two weeks ago alongside the Karoonda Highway, east of Adelaide.

After she was killed her body was placed in a suitcase which was also found dumped in scrub along with girl's clothes and other items.

Detective Superintendent Des Bray says 53 children have now been ruled out as potential victims, including missing UK girl Madeleine McCann. But the identity of the girl remains a mystery despite 550 reports to Crime Stoppers.

"The investigation is continuing at full speed while we await the results of forensic analysis," Supt Bray said on Friday.

"The massive public response has generated many lines of inquiry in addition to opportunities being identified by investigators."

Detectives are also still seeking a man aged about 60 who was seen in the area where the remains were found in both April and May this year.

He was spotted carrying a dark suitcase.

THE SUITCASE MURDER - WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR:

* The victim was a young girl aged between two and a half and four.

* She was likely caucasian with fair hair about 18cm long.

* She was 90 to 95cm tall.

* She was killed at another location with her body put in a suitcase before being brought to SA.

* She was killed some time since the start of 2007.

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Post by Joss on 31.07.15 13:05

If the little girl was never reported missing then it could be very difficult to find out who she is. Unless someone remembers seeing something unusual like someone that had a very young child around fitting the description, and then that child was suddenly no longer around, if possibly a neighbour that remembers something? But the little girl could of been from a farming area with no neighbours close by too? Also at age 4 she wouldn't have started school yet either. So they are saying she was murdered elsewhere and her remains were dumped in S.Australia. That sure is a possibility. There are lots of remote bush areas in Australia, and i think someone wanted this child's remains found or they would of concealed the crime more carefully, IMO.
It will be interesting to see what forensics come up with.

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Post by Nina on 31.07.15 13:45

@jeanmonroe wrote:http://mobile.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/more-police-to-investigate-girls-murder/story-e6frfku9-1227464853936

More police to investigate girl's murder
From: AAP
July 31, 2015 2:11PM
MORE officers have been added to a police taskforce investigating the discovery of a young girl's skeletal remains in South Australia.

ANOTHER five staff have been added to taskforce Mallee, taking its numbers to 20, as police continue to try to identity the murder victim - a fair-haired girl aged between two-and-a-half and four.

Her remains were found dumped in scrub two weeks ago alongside the Karoonda Highway, east of Adelaide.

After she was killed her body was placed in a suitcase which was also found dumped in scrub along with girl's clothes and other items.

Detective Superintendent Des Bray says 53 children have now been ruled out as potential victims, including missing UK girl Madeleine McCann. But the identity of the girl remains a mystery despite 550 reports to Crime Stoppers.

"The investigation is continuing at full speed while we await the results of forensic analysis," Supt Bray said on Friday.

"The massive public response has generated many lines of inquiry in addition to opportunities being identified by investigators."

Detectives are also still seeking a man aged about 60 who was seen in the area where the remains were found in both April and May this year.

He was spotted carrying a dark suitcase.

THE SUITCASE MURDER - WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR:

* The victim was a young girl aged between two and a half and four.

* She was likely caucasian with fair hair about 18cm long.

* She was 90 to 95cm tall.

* She was killed at another location with her body put in a suitcase before being brought to SA.

* She was killed some time since the start of 2007.
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* She was killed some time since the start of 2007.


How do they know2007   let alone  start of  2007?

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Post by aquila on 31.07.15 14:06

@Nina wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:http://mobile.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/more-police-to-investigate-girls-murder/story-e6frfku9-1227464853936

More police to investigate girl's murder
From: AAP
July 31, 2015 2:11PM
MORE officers have been added to a police taskforce investigating the discovery of a young girl's skeletal remains in South Australia.

ANOTHER five staff have been added to taskforce Mallee, taking its numbers to 20, as police continue to try to identity the murder victim - a fair-haired girl aged between two-and-a-half and four.

Her remains were found dumped in scrub two weeks ago alongside the Karoonda Highway, east of Adelaide.

After she was killed her body was placed in a suitcase which was also found dumped in scrub along with girl's clothes and other items.

Detective Superintendent Des Bray says 53 children have now been ruled out as potential victims, including missing UK girl Madeleine McCann. But the identity of the girl remains a mystery despite 550 reports to Crime Stoppers.

"The investigation is continuing at full speed while we await the results of forensic analysis," Supt Bray said on Friday.

"The massive public response has generated many lines of inquiry in addition to opportunities being identified by investigators."

Detectives are also still seeking a man aged about 60 who was seen in the area where the remains were found in both April and May this year.

He was spotted carrying a dark suitcase.

THE SUITCASE MURDER - WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR:

* The victim was a young girl aged between two and a half and four.

* She was likely caucasian with fair hair about 18cm long.

* She was 90 to 95cm tall.

* She was killed at another location with her body put in a suitcase before being brought to SA.

* She was killed some time since the start of 2007.
Snipped............

* She was killed some time since the start of 2007.


How do they know2007   let alone  start of  2007?
Precisely Nina, unless there have been forensic reports on the skeletal remains which Detective Bray was awaiting so I don't know where 2007 was plucked from, the only thing to go on is the physical paraphernalia of clothes/suitcase etc. I'm not even sure a forensic scientist could or would ever declare skeletal remains to be from a specific start date.

Let's hope SA Police find out who this little girl is, bring justice for her cruelly short life and give her bones a dignified place to rest. It's not Madeleine McCann and I wish the media would develop searing blisters on their fingers when they type Madeleine's name each time a child goes missing or there is some stupid incident in a holiday resort that comes to nothing.

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Re: ***NEW*** Decomposed child's body found in suitcase in South Australia was NOT Madeleine McCann - OFFICIAL (was: Bones found in South Australia)

Post by suzyjohnson on 31.07.15 14:07

1) That's the strange thing about it Joss, if the skeleton has remained undetected for so long, why draw attention to it now, especially with all the other traceable items in the suitcase. If, as you say, they resided in a remote area, then why not just leave the skeleton there after all this time? The most likely explanation IMO is that someone has recently had to move house. 

2) Because some of the clothing dates from 2007 Nina, it wasn't for sale prior to this date.

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Re: ***NEW*** Decomposed child's body found in suitcase in South Australia was NOT Madeleine McCann - OFFICIAL (was: Bones found in South Australia)

Post by Nina on 31.07.15 14:27

@suzyjohnson wrote:1) That's the strange thing about it Joss, if the skeleton has remained undetected for so long, why draw attention to it now, especially with all the other traceable items in the suitcase. If, as you say, they resided in a remote area, then why not just leave the skeleton there after all this time? The most likely explanation IMO is that someone has recently had to move house. 

2) Because some of the clothing dates from 2007 Nina, it wasn't for sale prior to this date.
roses suzyjohnson,I  wasn't  aware of the clothing  dates, so it is sometime from then, early 2007.

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Post by notlongnow on 31.07.15 15:49

Surely dating by clothes is a bit of a lottery,they could all be from a charity shop bought last year.

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Re: ***NEW*** Decomposed child's body found in suitcase in South Australia was NOT Madeleine McCann - OFFICIAL (was: Bones found in South Australia)

Post by suzyjohnson on 31.07.15 16:48

1) Yes that's right Nina

2) notlongnow, the clothes could be second hand but what the police are saying is that they think the earliest the child's death occurred was 2007. This is assuming of course that this clothing actually belonged to the child.

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Re: ***NEW*** Decomposed child's body found in suitcase in South Australia was NOT Madeleine McCann - OFFICIAL (was: Bones found in South Australia)

Post by katkat on 01.08.15 2:18

@notlongnow wrote:Surely dating by clothes is a bit of a lottery,they could all be from a charity shop bought last year.
Its not just the clothes in themselves apparently:    


Police have said they believe the body was in an advanced stage of decomposition before it was placed into the suitcase.


"We believe that most of the decomposition process occurred outside of the suitcase at another location," Detective superintendent Des Bray told media today. "Some of the clothing has been identified as first having been made in 2007 and some since that time. Staining and decomposition of some of the marks on the clothing indicate to us that the child died most likely since 2007. https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/29025737/bones-found-in-suitcase-belonged-to-little-girl/

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Re: ***NEW*** Decomposed child's body found in suitcase in South Australia was NOT Madeleine McCann - OFFICIAL (was: Bones found in South Australia)

Post by Joss on 01.08.15 9:19

@suzyjohnson wrote:1) That's the strange thing about it Joss, if the skeleton has remained undetected for so long, why draw attention to it now, especially with all the other traceable items in the suitcase. If, as you say, they resided in a remote area, then why not just leave the skeleton there after all this time? The most likely explanation IMO is that someone has recently had to move house. 

2) Because some of the clothing dates from 2007 Nina, it wasn't for sale prior to this date.
Hi Suzy, Exactly. That's why i think whoever was responsible didn't care if it was found or not, or they would have been more careful of how they disposed of it. There has been speculation that someone might have needed to get rid of the evidence in a hurry, as you say from having to move house in a hurry or could be some similar scenario? I wonder if they did drive from another state to South Australia how far they actually did drive from?

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