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Post by Amy Dean 27.08.15 11:44

[size=30]£10
Jill 'Get'emGonçalo' Havern
4 hours ago[/size]
I'm chucking another tenner into the pot out of respect for Leanne and that despicable comment left yesterday that shocked so many of us. Leanne's a young mum who has done a truly wonderful thing for Dr Amaral by setting up this defence fund and she didn't deserve this. I'm really pleased to see the PJGA have taken over here. Thank you Leanne for getting this fund off to such a fantastic start xx


Agree 100%.
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Post by plebgate 27.08.15 19:02

Amy Dean wrote:[size=30]£10
Jill 'Get'emGonçalo' Havern
4 hours ago[/size]
I'm chucking another tenner into the pot out of respect for Leanne and that despicable comment left yesterday that shocked so many of us. Leanne's a young mum who has done a truly wonderful thing for Dr Amaral by setting up this defence fund and she didn't deserve this. I'm really pleased to see the PJGA have taken over here. Thank you Leanne for getting this fund off to such a fantastic start xx


Agree 100%.
Agreed 100% here too.  Sick comment beyond belief.

It certainly seems as though some do not want this appeal to go ahead.
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Post by sallypelt 01.09.15 13:52

Fund now £38020 Mrs
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Post by HelenMeg 16.09.15 15:20

Currently at 38,775!!!
Interesting comment on GOFUND ME  page today from Andy Hopkins:

I make this payment on behalf of the Xavier Bastin and Robyn Kelly accounts from the press watchdog the Independent (HA HA HA) Press Standards Organisation who are not doing their job and ensuring that the press abide by the Code of Practise. From a reply I sent to Robyn and Xavier: You're obviously having difficulty accepting the press have broken your code of practise and that you should be acting on it so I'll put it another way. Let's assume this is an entirely new case breaking today. Which of the following 3 statements are acceptable for the press to print using just Clause 1 – Accuracy of your code of practise as a guideline, which they should be anyway! 1) Child A was abducted from their families holiday apartment - No evidence (forensic or physical) and no facts whatsoever to substantiate this claim. 2) Child A has disappeared from their families holiday apartment. 3) Child A died in their families holiday apartment and the parents are directly involved in the subsequent cover up of the death, concealment and disposal of the body, assisted, aided and abetted by members of a group of friends they travelled with and members of several government departments - A wealth of evidence (physical and forensic), facts, contradictions, anomalies, witness testimony etc to substantiate this claim. I'll narrow it down for you to make it easier. Which of these should the press NOT report in the papers using your code of practise as the guideline?? Hint: It's not 2 or 3. Using your Clause 1 – Accuracy in this matter it is obvious to conclude that by stating that Madeleine McCann was abducted is inaccurate (due to no facts and no evidence), it's misleading (press do not print ANY of the evidence/facts freely available in the public domain that points people to what really happened) and it's distorted (just because Madeleine is missing doesn't mean she was abducted. The evidence and facts available show you that). You yourselves - the IPSO do not dispute the fact that there is no evidence to support the press printing the abduction scenario over and over again. Are you aware that by failing to act you are complicit in not only failing to do your duty and uphold your own code of practise but also in covering up the the truth of what really happened in Praia da Luz in May 2007?
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Post by Liz Eagles 22.09.15 8:50

2 ANONYMOUS DONATIONS TO GONCALO'S FUND THIS MORNING OF £4,000 EACH.
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Post by sallypelt 22.09.15 8:54

£46,865!!!!! spin Mrs


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An anonymous group of employees of companies and legal means that are stunned by what happened. Portugal and Britain are old allies, but the McCanns and the British tabloids tried to separate us. All see perfectly what we are trying to do, freezing the assets of Dr Amaral to prevent him from defending himself, while using the millions they have been donated by the public to the process. This is not justice. This is wrong. The McCanns have lost 5 of their 7 pretensions, but the British press not reported, nor even reported the harsh words used by the judge in relation to his alleged 'evidence'. They have to pay 60% of costs, but the British press not reported. This small donation is intended to ensure that this venomous hatred act is not successful. We believe that one day the truth will be told, although it is unlikely to be parents to do so.
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Post by sallypelt 22.09.15 9:16

THE FUND IS SHOOTING UP. bravo


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Post by ROSA 22.09.15 11:58

Hope there's plenty more to come awesome stuff !! howdy

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For Paulo Sargento, the thesis that Gonçalo Amaral revealed at first hand to "SP" that the blanket could have been used in a funeral ceremony at the Luz chapel "is very interesting".
 
And he adds: "In reality, when the McCanns went to Oprah's Show, the blanket was mentioned. At a given moment, when Oprah tells Kate that she heard her mention a blanket several times, Kate argued that a mother who misses a child always wants to know if she is comfortable, if she is warm, and added, referring to Maddie, that sometimes she asked herself if the person who had taken her would cover her up with her little blanket (but the blanket was on the bed after Maddie, supposedly, disappeared!!!).
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Post by HelenMeg 22.09.15 12:07

I guess this has made my day and your too ! Mr Off to take my dogs on their walkies with a spring in my step.
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Post by jean-pierre.t50 22.09.15 13:32

HelenMeg wrote:I guess this has made my day and your too ! Mr Off to take my dogs on their walkies with a spring in my step.

Good news for justice.  And good to see some more donors from Portugal.

But a minor point.  Why make the donations via the GoFundMe website?  Assuming the money was collected in Portugal, it could have been sent directly to the BPI in Lisbon at no cost.

By directing the funds via the GoFundMe website, 5% plus is deducted and of course there is also the cost of exchange from Euros to Pounds and presumably back again when the funds go to the lawyers. 

It really does not make any sense to me.
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Post by HelenMeg 22.09.15 14:34

No, but maybe it would receive more publicity this way, with a finger up to the UK establishment....
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Post by jean-pierre.t50 22.09.15 14:57

HelenMeg wrote:No, but maybe it would receive more publicity this way, with a finger up to the UK establishment....

An expensive and rather inefficient finger.  And why two donations of the same amount 5 mins apart?  Surely one £8000 donation would have had a bigger impact.

Maybe they were from entirely unconnected donors independently contributing the same amount on the same day at the same time.  What are the chances!

I am beginning to get a distinct whiff of "eau de rat".
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Post by Dutchgirl 22.09.15 15:02

and here : http://portugalresident.com/appeal-to-raise-money-for-maddie-cop%E2%80%99s-legal-costs-gets-huge-cash-boost
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Post by aiyoyo 22.09.15 15:36

aquila wrote:2 ANONYMOUS DONATIONS TO GONCALO'S FUND THIS MORNING OF £4,000 EACH.

Same name used for the two donations of £4000 per time literally one hour apart.  Wonder why this team of people didn't donate it all at once?

Does this possibly mean that more donation will be coming from this group of people, alleging coming from employees of companies and people from legal industry ( google translation)?

Brilliant for Dr Amaral.
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Post by aiyoyo 22.09.15 15:40

jean-pierre.t50 wrote:
Maybe they were from entirely unconnected donors independently contributing the same amount on the same day at the same time.  What are the chances!


I noticed too.
Same name used though, and only one message written in Portuguese.  Can only have come from one group of Portuguese donors.  All good stuff.
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Post by Liz Eagles 22.09.15 16:34

I made a charitable donation overseas a couple of years ago. I spoke to my bank and explained what it was for. Not only did the bank give me a preferential exchange rate, they only charged me £10 for the transfer.
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Post by jean-pierre.t50 22.09.15 16:42

aquila wrote:I made a charitable donation overseas a couple of years ago. I spoke to my bank and explained what it was for. Not only did the bank give me a preferential exchange rate, they only charged me £10 for the transfer.

Well done you.  That sounds like a result.  And presumably it was a transfer using the likes of swift to transfer directly between banks. 

In the case of GoFundMe this is invariably using credit or debit cards, and therefore the exchange rate is out of your control. I am just puzzled by the use of this site for donations from Portugal - when a transfer straight from their bank to the bank in Lisbon is likely to be at best free or at worst at a modest charge.

No doubt someone can explain.
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Post by Liz Eagles 22.09.15 17:19

jean-pierre.t50 wrote:
aquila wrote:I made a charitable donation overseas a couple of years ago. I spoke to my bank and explained what it was for. Not only did the bank give me a preferential exchange rate, they only charged me £10 for the transfer.

Well done you.  That sounds like a result.  And presumably it was a transfer using the likes of swift to transfer directly between banks. 

In the case of GoFundMe this is invariably using credit or debit cards, and therefore the exchange rate is out of your control. I am just puzzled by the use of this site for donations from Portugal - when a transfer straight from their bank to the bank in Lisbon is likely to be at best free or at worst at a modest charge.

No doubt someone can explain.
JP, does anyone need to explain? Donations can be made by anyone in any way they choose and for whatever reason they choose. Some people sent money in envelopes to Rothley. I don't think any explanation has ever been given as to who counted the cash and banked it. I don't think the McCanns have ever proffered a detailed breakdown of who sent what to their limited company.

Chill out, it's £8,000 - not the millions passing through the No Stone Unturned Limited company. I'm surprised you haven't questioned that in the spirit of fairness.
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Post by sallypelt 22.09.15 17:39

And still the donations come rolling in:



£50
Dorothy Mistry
23 mins ago
It has lifted my spirits to see larger donations being given at last!! this is my donation for last week and this week, because I believe in Dr Amaral and not the other 2 doctors who appear to be unable to speak the truth! I will continue to donate as long as this fund is needed and I truly believe that one day we will reap the rewards and see justice done. I want to see Dr Amaral get his life back and to know that we believe in him!!!

The blood pressure is sky-high on Twitter, going by the tweets on there. Take this one, for example:

Dorbi @KDMoose
@Josephodriscoll I just don't get it, Joe... unless someone had some dirty money they wanted to clean, it makes no sense. #mccann
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Post by sonic72 22.09.15 19:29

sallypelt wrote:And still the donations come rolling in:

The blood pressure is sky-high on Twitter, going by the tweets on there. Take this one, for example:

Dorbi @KDMoose
@Josephodriscoll I just don't get it, Joe... unless someone had some dirty money they wanted to clean, it makes no sense. #mccann


So it's ok for Hugh Grant to make separate £5000 donations individually to Kate & Gerry for their bike ride/triathlon fund raisers, but not ok for a man who has his assets frozen by them to receive support for his legal battle against them!

They received large donations early on via their limited company that's masquerading as a not-for-profit entity. 

The Mccanns and their vile supporters are seriously the biggest hypocrites in all this! The Mccann's fund is not transparent either, yet they have the cheek to call an open donation to Amaral's fund 'dirty money'.

It's obviously deliberate behaviour, just like all the spam bots they create of the #mccann tag. It appears the Mccanns are still fighting for survival/freedom.
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Post by plebgate 22.09.15 21:09

This is excellent news.   Come on Portugal - about time and I am sure Rocky is very appreciative.

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Post by TMH 22.09.15 21:12

Brilliantly fantastic lol!!! I'm so pleased, what a great boost to the fund   clapping
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Post by aiyoyo 23.09.15 12:55

Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on September 22, 2015
An anonymous group of Portuguese “business and legal workers” have ploughed over €11,000 (£8000) into the online appeal set up by a young single mother to raise money for beleaguered ex-Maddie cop Gonçalo Amaral. Amaral’s appeal against the €600,000 in damages awarded against him in the civil case taken out by the parents of missing Madeleine is due to be decided by Lisbon’s Appellate Court “any day now”.
The cash boost has brought the Legal Defence for Gonçalo Amaral to over €65,000 (£47,010).
Donated in the Portuguese language, the text claims to be from “an anonymous group of business and legal workers who are appalled by what has happened”.
It continues: “Portugal and Britain are old allies, but the McCanns and the British gutter press have tried to drive a wedge between us.
“We can all see what they are trying to do, freezing Dr Amaral’s assets to prevent him from defending himself, whilst using the donated millions to sue him.
“That is not justice. It is not right.
“The McCanns lost five out of the seven issues, but the British press has not reported that, nor the strong terms used by the judge against their so called ‘evidence’.
“They have to pay 60% of the costs, but the British press has not reported that” either, the text continues, stressing that “this small donation is to ensure that this act of hate and venom does not succeed”.
The donation - arriving in the legal fund in two chunks on Tuesday morning - has been widely shared on social media where a veritable avalanche of support for Amaral has accompanied him for the past eight years. But so far it has been ignored by the British mainstream media.
As to the former PJ detective’s appeal against the ruling that effectively orders him to pay the McCann’s over €600,000 in damages, that is advancing now through the Appellate Court in Lisbon.
As a friend of the former detective’s explained, “it is not a public process. There is no court date.
“At some point, the judges reach a verdict and then they communicate that verdict to all parties. There is however no deadline. It may take weeks or months until we hear anything”.
natasha.donn@algarveresident.com

- See more at: http://portugalresident.com/appeal-to-raise-money-for-maddie-cop%E2%80%99s-legal-costs-gets-huge-cash-boost#sthash.E7ZYrUPY.dpuf

There (the bolded bits) is the confirmation CM lied when he said the Mcs have to give evidence at the appeal and therefore their anguish.   
The appeal is just paper review by higher court judge/s of a lower court judge's applications of law against evidence, without needing a court to be in session.

Also, it's interesting to note that the anonymous donations came from "a group of Portuguese business and legal people".  It's good to know legal people there also want to see the travesty of justice put right.  It would mean even legal people there believed the law was not correctly applied and the judgement was a travesty.
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Post by sallypelt 23.09.15 14:07

£15
Eileen Calder
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Dr Amaral When the people trying to destroy you legally have found it necessary in the past to consult the lawyers of murdering dictator General Pinochet on extradition issues, the lawyers of the alleged Omagh Bomber on the matter of LCN/ DNA, the lawyers of Eugene Zapata (self confessed killer) on the evidence of cadaver dogs and employ the services of Carter Ruck to bully anyone who uses their right to free expression I think that tells the public something about the truth behind the lies being told against you. When they employ so called detectives whose expertise is in money laundering and not missing children some of whom have been convicted of fraud that tells you where the truth may be found.

Nothing more needs to be said. That's it, in a nutshell
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Post by Tony Bennett 24.09.15 12:44

LATEST DONATION:



£5


The Sun



4 hours ago


I feel so shamed by the Portugal donors showing us for what we really are, I am sorry for lying so much and I hope this breaks the ice for all of my colleagues who have made a fortune out of this case to put in large donations before the end of the month. Remember, doing the right thing is never too late.


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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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