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Tributes to Dr G Amaral

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by sallypelt on 04.05.15 18:13

Here is another comment on the donation site:

"Hello fellow trolls, It is with great pleasure that I make a donation to the fund for Goncalo Amaral. May truth and justice prevail over lies and corruption..God Bless you Senor Amaral".


If this carries on, will the meaning of the word "troll" change from its original meaning to "a person who gives a donation to the cause of truth and justice"

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by aiyoyo on 04.05.15 18:19

@HelenMeg wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@Ashwarya wrote:The Daily Star are actually naming people as "sick trolls".  Any libel lawyers out there who can offer advice to those who've been slandered?
If it is pushing up the coffers, they can call me whatever they like Mrs


At this going rate, we need the Mirror, the Guardian, the Telegraph et al to promote print "trolls"  fund, and the 25K target will be within reach in no time.

When the trolls story goes international, as it will with SP's film, hopefully Mc-skeptics from across the pond (and around the globe) might incline to donate, especially if Mcs vindictive case against Amaral gets a mention in the film.
Yes - we really should be e-mailing all the newspapers to invite them to print 'trolls' fund  - happy to be called a troll in the name of justice

To be called troll is better than to be called EVIL. 
When the police knock on their doors in the early morning hours...we know which word will be plastered on breaking news.

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by aiyoyo on 04.05.15 21:13

The Sun shines on it and the Fund grows !  Ho Ho Ho what's a joy ! Thank you Sun.

[size=30]£20
Glyn Taylor
1 hour ago[/size]
Already donated via paypal account too, but this is on behalf of my late dad, a journalist who would be ashamed of his profession in MSM and their apparent lack of interest or ability/desire to grow a pair and challenge 'the official line'. The tide is turning fast now. Go get 'em Snr GA.


Benn Perrin, you copy that?  You should feel ashamed.  

No need to snoop around FB to nick email hoping someone will talk to you.

You could lift this comment, but you won't, will you?

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by aquila on 04.05.15 23:16

Somewhere on this forum is a list of all the damages awarded to the McCanns and the Tapas 7 through civil suits.

It would be interesting to see this again. It demonstrates how litigious TM is and how the Fund has benefitted from such actions. I doubt the press would publish it but as they scour the internet for their latest 'news' to call people trolls, monsters, vile etc...they might like a reminder of their own experiences in libel courts.

Of course the press can afford to do this as can TM. It's almost a symbiotic relationship. Win Win.

There are people, little people who are targetted by both the Press and TM who have no means to take civil action.

Goncalo Amaral has been maligned for years by the UK Press. Brenda Leyland's death was a direct result of Sky News - she'd still be alive today had she not been so viciously and cruelly the target of a 'dossier' which came to nothing.

Can anyone find the list of damages awarded to the McCanns so far?

Publish and be damned as they say.

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by sallypelt on 04.05.15 23:28

Davy Mac
2 mins ago
If someone is down reach out your hand, Goncalo Ameral every one of us will do our part to put you back up where you belong. Se alguém está para baixo estender a mão , Gonçalo Ameral cada um de nós vai fazer a nossa parte para colocá-lo de volta onde você pertence .

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by Silverspeed on 04.05.15 23:31

Just seen these 2 comments on the donation site.

"INVOLVEMENT OF THE BRITISH FOREIGN OFFICE? ... MORE THAN YOU THINK EXTRACT December 3, 2007 A memo was leaked to the Belgian newspaper La Dernière Heure regarding a diplomat's concerns about the case. Questions have been raised as to whether the memo may have been written by Ambassador Buck or someone in his office, although diplomat's name was not published in the newspaper articles. The leaked memo was routed through the British diplomatic mission in Brussels The leaked memo was sent "just days" after Madeleine disappeared. The leaked memo warned the Foreign Office of concerns regarding the McCanns and warned of the risks of siding with the McCanns in public. The diplomat immediately had doubts after being sent to Praia da Luz due to what he considered to be inconsistencies in their testimonies and "confused declarations" as to the whereabouts of the McCanns and their friends on May 3. The memo mentions instructions "from London" that consular staff "overstretch their authority and put pressure on Portuguese authorities." The memo refers to orders sent the previous day from the Foreign Office in London commanding embassy staff to provide all possible assistance to the McCanns and that the McCanns "had to be "accompanied at all times during any contact with the Portuguese police" by a member of consular staff or by British police officers sent out from the UK. He also mentioned their lack of cooperation with the Portuguese police The memo was sent *from the Algarve* to the Foreign office days after Madeleine "went missing" Quote: "With the greatest respect, I would like to make you aware of the risks and implications to our relationship with the Portuguese authorities, if you consider the possible involvement of the couple. "Please confirm to me, in the light of these concerns, that we want to continue to be closely involved in the case as was requested in your previous message." The Belgian report also stated that Portuguese detectives believe it is possible Madeleine died as the result of an accident on May 3 in the family's holiday apartment and that her parents hid and later disposed of her body with the help of their friends. They said it is highly significant that almost all of the diplomats involved at the outset have now been taken off the case. News Winnow: British Foreign Office: Timeline - Madeleine McCann case NEWSOUTLINES.BLOGSPOT.COM"



"I have already donated via Paypal on another site, but I am donating again because I want to stand up here and be counted. Disagreeing with the McCanns' version of Madeleine's disappearance does not make me a "troll", and I am sick to the back teeth of the one-sided reporting of this case in the mainstream media. Have no journalists read the police files on the case? It seems not. Sr Amaral, I hope and trust that you will win your appeal."

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by Doug D on 04.05.15 23:43

Aquila:

Link as requested although thread probably needs updating now.

Sunday Times 50k, Amaral 357k (nice easy number that, thank you Missbeetle) Any others?

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2900-a-compendium-of-mccann-related-libel-actions

I did have a list of dates, amounts and names somewhere, but can't find it at the moment.

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by aquila on 04.05.15 23:57

@Doug D wrote:Aquila:

Link as requested although thread probably needs updating now.

Sunday Times 50k, Amaral 357k (nice easy number that, thank you Missbeetle) Any others?

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2900-a-compendium-of-mccann-related-libel-actions

I did have a list of dates, amounts and names somewhere, but can't find it at the moment.
Thank you.

I seem to remember a comprehensive list as well.

It's time to show how litigious this whole saga became from the humble beginnings of a flood of donations from the kind hearted public. Mortgage payments, £40k for a website which had its HQ in Oban (that 'family touch') when everything else had an HQ in London needs to be explained too. £40k for a website set up by a former pupil of Aunty Phil in Oban beggars belief.

Why haven't the McCanns sued Stephen Birch? Why did Sky News not tackle Stephen Birch? Why has Sky News never been sued by the McCanns? after all Martin Brunt made some pretty damning reports.

This is such a sick and twisted cover up.

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by sallypelt on 06.05.15 19:00

Concerned Internet User
21 mins ago
These are the reasons for my donation to this fund today: On 14 October 2010 the Appellate Court in Lisbon overturned a previous ban on Dr. Gonçalo Amaral's book, "Maddie - A Verdade da Mentira" (The Truth of the Lie), deeming the book to be factual - based on the 2007 investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - and therefore non-libellous, and that Dr Amaral was entitled to express his opinion. Kate and Gerry McCann quickly appealed against this decision, but their appeal was rejected outright by the Supreme Court on 18 March 2011. A final judgement was made in recent weeks in the civil court case, McCann vs Aamaral, in which the McCanns are attempting to claim damages from Dr Amaral to the tune of £1 million. The judgement rejected all claims for damages on behalf of the three McCann children, and only partially upheld just one aspect of the parents' claims - that the publication of the book had caused them "distress", in spite of it being based of factual information otherwise in the public domain in the form of the official police (PJ) files. All other claims were rejected. In particular the judgement ruled that the publication of the book had not harmed the search for Madeleine. Additionally, the judgement has flown in the face of the 2011 Supreme Court's ruling by once again banning Amaral's book - a seemingly extraordinary decision, in my opinion. The McCanns were awarded a very large sum of money - approximately half a million pounds - to compensate for their "distress". They were reported in the press to be "delighted" at this judgement and have publicly stated: "We want to emphasise that the action was never about money. It has always been focused on the effects of the libels on our other children and the damage that was done to the search for Madeleine." This is in the face of the court ruling that no harm has come to the search for Madeleine, and that no claims for damages for the three children were upheld, and in the face of choosing to claim £1 million damages. Gonçalo Amaral has a right to appeal this decision and has indicated he will do so. The McCanns have at their disposal the money invested in their private limited company, Madeleine's Fund - money that has been largely donated by the public for the purpose of searching for Madeleine - to pay for their own legal costs should they wish to do so. However, for Amaral, with half his pension and all his assets frozen by the courts for five years as a result of the McCanns bringing this law suit, paying for a lawyer to pursue this appeal himself is nigh on impossible. He needs our help to ensure that justice is finally served in this matter. The best of British luck to you, Gonçalo!

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by sallypelt on 06.05.15 20:38

£50
Mr Ashley Wilkins
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I've never commented on-line before but if this makes me a 'Troll', I'm proud to be one. I always supported the mccan's, sent them cash and bought the holiday packs and T.Shirts. Since the article in the Sun, I have read the CMOMM forum and read much of the case files. I simply can't believe what has been hidden from us for so long. I was so trusting and naive, I simply cannot believe the amount of evidence - the dogs, the 48 questions, the crazy Tapas 9 stories, the entering through front door - then the back door - I could go on but won't bother. What is going on with UK/Portuges establishments and the MSM ? What is being covered up? I am truly shocked and speachless and will be donating this monthly amount until Amaral gets his 25k. What was WW2 all about - What is going on in this country?

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by NickE on 06.05.15 20:49

@aquila wrote:
@Doug D wrote:Aquila:

Link as requested although thread probably needs updating now.

Sunday Times 50k, Amaral 357k (nice easy number that, thank you Missbeetle) Any others?

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2900-a-compendium-of-mccann-related-libel-actions

I did have a list of dates, amounts and names somewhere, but can't find it at the moment.
Thank you.

I seem to remember a comprehensive list as well.

It's time to show how litigious this whole saga became from the humble beginnings of a flood of donations from the kind hearted public. Mortgage payments, £40k for a website which had its HQ in Oban (that 'family touch') when everything else had an HQ in London needs to be explained too. £40k for a website set up by a former pupil of Aunty Phil in Oban beggars belief.

Why haven't the McCanns sued Stephen Birch? Why did Sky News not tackle Stephen Birch? Why has Sky News never been sued by the McCanns? after all Martin Brunt made some pretty damning reports.

This is such a sick and twisted cover up.



Daft ‏@DaftNelly 
@BirchStephen Have the #McCann s attempted to sue you ?

Stephen D.Birch‏@BirchStephen

@DaftNelly They won,t dare ! #McCann

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When asked if people will ever learn what really happened, Mr Amaral responded: “Yes, we will, when MI5 opens the case files, we will find out".

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by MumofTwo on 07.05.15 13:52

Sometimes I have to wonder at the TRUE motives of the MSM.
Surely the best way to put out a fire is to deprive it of oxygen, therefore if Amaral was a problem, would it not be better to just disregard any news about him until he faded into obscurity? 
"No news is good news"
Instead the Press have adopted a "look over here" stance using incendiary and headline-grabbing phrases such as 'troll'.
Surely they must be aware that this fom of 'journalism' inspires curiousity of those who, until now, have sat on the fence. And many of those will be led to the PJ Files and draw the same conclusions that those of us here have.

Or maybe I am over-thinking it and crediting the MSM with more brain cells than they actually possess.
TBH I hold the same opinion about press coverage of terrorism - suffocation is key.And that is certainly not an attitude heeded by the news agencies.
So what do I know????

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by jeanmonroe on 07.05.15 14:54

@MumofTwo wrote:Sometimes I have to wonder at the TRUE motives of the MSM.
Surely the best way to put out a fire is to deprive it of oxygen, therefore if Amaral was a problem, would it not be better to just disregard any news about him until he faded into obscurity? 
"No news is good news"
Instead the Press have adopted a "look over here" stance using incendiary and headline-grabbing phrases such as 'troll'.
Surely they must be aware that this fom of 'journalism' inspires curiousity of those who, until now, have sat on the fence. And many of those will be led to the PJ Files and draw the same conclusions that those of us here have.

Or maybe I am over-thinking it and crediting the MSM with more brain cells than they actually possess.
TBH I hold the same opinion about press coverage of terrorism - suffocation is key.And that is certainly not an attitude heeded by the news agencies.
So what do I know????

You 'know' what you 'know'!

If 'it's' there, in black and white, (KM 'bewk') or 'seen' with your own eyes, (TV 'interviews') you 'KNOW'!

And NOBODY, not McCanns', not 'msm', can ever 'take' that from you!

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by HelenMeg on 07.05.15 15:24

@MumofTwo wrote:Sometimes I have to wonder at the TRUE motives of the MSM.
Surely the best way to put out a fire is to deprive it of oxygen, therefore if Amaral was a problem, would it not be better to just disregard any news about him until he faded into obscurity? 
"No news is good news"
Instead the Press have adopted a "look over here" stance using incendiary and headline-grabbing phrases such as 'troll'.
Surely they must be aware that this fom of 'journalism' inspires curiousity of those who, until now, have sat on the fence. And many of those will be led to the PJ Files and draw the same conclusions that those of us here have.

Or maybe I am over-thinking it and crediting the MSM with more brain cells than they actually possess.
TBH I hold the same opinion about press coverage of terrorism - suffocation is key.And that is certainly not an attitude heeded by the news agencies.
So what do I know????
Share your view MumofTwo  - I cant help thinking it was a deliberate attempt to fuel the fire

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by jeanmonroe on 07.05.15 16:35

The 'dossier' compilers must have gone through a whole pack of crayons, by now, writing down all of the names of the HUNDREDS of anti McCann 'trolls' that have 'donated' to GA's lawyers 'fund'!

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Re: Tributes to Dr G Amaral

Post by worriedmum on 07.05.15 19:05

@jeanmonroe wrote:The 'dossier' compilers must have gone through a whole pack of crayons, by now, writing down all of the names of the HUNDREDS of anti McCann 'trolls' that have 'donated' to GA's lawyers 'fund'!
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