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Post by aiyoyo on 03.05.15 17:19

@Joss wrote:It is all rather strange considering the latest announcement that the waste of time that those dossier compilers wasted their time with is now a moot point, as the police have announced no one "troll" broke any laws, even though they said some not very nice stuff about Saint McCann's. Well i guess that foiled their little plot.
Why is the sun wasting their time too, what are they hoping to achieve i wonder?
Still waiting for them all to apologize for victimising Brenda Leyland, "crickets" of course in that department.

S&S's assertion that the Dossier Compilers are neither unrelated to or know the K & G is going to land him eggs on face should SP's film reveal otherwise. 

It will be interesting to see how the Mcs' vindictive long arm is going to reach Uncle Sam's territory after the debut of SP's film !

Are they going to phone in to demand that the Channel desist the broadcast of the programme, I wonder?

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Post by notlongnow on 03.05.15 17:30

S&S getting involved again is good news.
How and why are they privvy to so much info?
No doubt they will make a cock up of it all after last years fiasco.

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Post by NickE on 03.05.15 17:40

@Daryl Dixon wrote:Jenny Murat, 78, the mother of wrongly accused Robert Murat, has potentially breakthrough evidence but no one has spoken to her. At 8pm on May 3, 2007, she went to a supermarket and then drove past Apartment 5a and saw a woman hanging around. Her notes from the time say: “There was a woman standing on the corner under a lamp post.

“I don’t remember much of her other than she was of slight build and was wearing a plum coloured jacket. She moved around the lamp post as if trying not to be noticed.”

As she turned into the driveway of her home, Casa Liliana, she was nearly hit by a car going the wrong way. “When I stopped to open the gates I could not see the car but the woman was in the road looking in my direction.”

After her son was wrongly made an arguido (Portuguese for suspect), she contacted Hugo Swire, a Tory MP in Devon, and Leicestershire police about her sighting but, astonishingly, she has not been interviewed to this day.

Speaking at home this week, she told the Sunday Express: “I am happy to speak to Scotland Yard. This woman was just outside Apartment 5a and it didn’t look right. It could be relevant.”



Jennifer Murat was interviewed on 15 May 2007 and failed to mention any of the above in her witness statement. How odd to mention it now.
From Jez Wilkins:

I left my apartment pushing my son's pram so that he could sleep. I did not have a particular direction to follow nor did I have a specific time to do this. I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner. At the next crossing, I turned right and continued on down the hill. At this point, I saw a man that was coming from the road and was headed to the reception. I believe that he was with a woman but I cannot be precise of any detail about her. It was a tall Caucasian man, with blonde hair in 'rasta style' tied with a band instead of free flowing.

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Post by Doug D on 03.05.15 18:08

In one of the newspaper articles in the last few days it said that S&S were publishing a new revised version of their definitive account, with additional information together with the 10 new suspects that the Met wish to speak to out there (once it warms up a bit presumably).
 
Will that make it even more definitive?
 
I was having a look to see if I could find any information on this and failed miserably, but had to laugh at two comments on their FB wall relating to another expose:                   
 
 
                



‪Vikki Scott I wouldn't waste my money. If it's anything like your Mccann whitewash, I wouldn't use it to line the litter tray. You surpassed yourself with your Telegraph article. Another couple of chances profiting from the deathbed a child who was neglected by her litigious patents. How proud you must be? Professional liars for another pair of liars. I don't know how you sleep at night.
               
 
            

‪Vikki Scott As for you lot that buy this S&S crop......words fail me. This pair write fiction. Everything they produce has an agenda. Wake up. You are being conned. They couldn't write the truth if it bit them.
 
 
Why on earth would a publisher even contemplate reprinting a book that failed miserably first time round, (although it looks like the reprint statement may not have been correct anyway)?

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Post by Joss on 03.05.15 18:25

@aiyoyo wrote:
@Joss wrote:It is all rather strange considering the latest announcement that the waste of time that those dossier compilers wasted their time with is now a moot point, as the police have announced no one "troll" broke any laws, even though they said some not very nice stuff about Saint McCann's. Well i guess that foiled their little plot.
Why is the sun wasting their time too, what are they hoping to achieve i wonder?
Still waiting for them all to apologize for victimising Brenda Leyland, "crickets" of course in that department.

S&S's assertion that the Dossier Compilers are neither unrelated to or know the K & G is going to land him eggs on face should SP's film reveal otherwise. 

It will be interesting to see how the Mcs' vindictive long arm is going to reach Uncle Sam's territory after the debut of SP's film !

Are they going to phone in to demand that the Channel desist the broadcast of the programme, I wonder?
I think the U.S.A. could care less about anything McCann. They have too much other stuff going on in the country right now. On some of the other forums i read at, the McCann case has long been forgotten. There have been other missing/murdered child cases since Madeleine went missing that are more recent that people there blog about, sadly.

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Post by Joss on 03.05.15 18:32

@Doug D wrote:In one of the newspaper articles in the last few days it said that S&S were publishing a new revised version of their definitive account, with additional information together with the 10 new suspects that the Met wish to speak to out there (once it warms up a bit presumably).
 
Will that make it even more definitive?
 
I was having a look to see if I could find any information on this and failed miserably, but had to laugh at two comments on their FB wall relating to another expose:                   
 
 
                



‪Vikki Scott I wouldn't waste my money. If it's anything like your Mccann whitewash, I wouldn't use it to line the litter tray. You surpassed yourself with your Telegraph article. Another couple of chances profiting from the deathbed a child who was neglected by her litigious patents. How proud you must be? Professional liars for another pair of liars. I don't know how you sleep at night.
               
 
            

‪Vikki Scott As for you lot that buy this S&S crop......words fail me. This pair write fiction. Everything they produce has an agenda. Wake up. You are being conned. They couldn't write the truth if it bit them.
 
 
Why on earth would a publisher even contemplate reprinting a book that failed miserably first time round, (although it looks like the reprint statement may not have been correct anyway)?
LOL.

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Post by canada12 on 03.05.15 19:39

@Joss wrote:
I think the U.S.A. could care less about anything McCann. They have too much other stuff going on in the country right now. On some of the other forums i read at, the McCann case has long been forgotten. There have been other missing/murdered child cases since Madeleine went missing that are more recent that people there blog about, sadly.
I think the only way the USA would be interested in the McCanns would be if they got their own reality show, Gerry had a sex change operation and Kate married Kanye West.
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Post by Miraflores on 03.05.15 20:04

And right now the UK is more excited about the (late) arrival of a little girl, rather than a missing one.

Thoughtless of the Duchess to go overdue, and steal the McCann's thunder.

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Post by woodpecker on 03.05.15 20:36

@Miraflores wrote:And right now the UK is more excited about the (late) arrival of a little girl, rather than a missing one.

Thoughtless of the Duchess to go overdue, and steal the McCann's thunder.


yes, thoughtless of the Duchess to keep the McCanns off the front pages this weekend.

However, I don't think the Duchess would go off on the piss, tell the nanny to take the day off, and leave Prince George (22 months) and princess ? (2 days old) home alone, with the chauffeur coming back to do 30 min checks!

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Post by G-Unit on 03.05.15 21:04

@Daryl Dixon wrote:Jenny Murat, 78, the mother of wrongly accused Robert Murat, has potentially breakthrough evidence but no one has spoken to her. At 8pm on May 3, 2007, she went to a supermarket and then drove past Apartment 5a and saw a woman hanging around. Her notes from the time say: “There was a woman standing on the corner under a lamp post.

“I don’t remember much of her other than she was of slight build and was wearing a plum coloured jacket. She moved around the lamp post as if trying not to be noticed.”

As she turned into the driveway of her home, Casa Liliana, she was nearly hit by a car going the wrong way. “When I stopped to open the gates I could not see the car but the woman was in the road looking in my direction.”

After her son was wrongly made an arguido (Portuguese for suspect), she contacted Hugo Swire, a Tory MP in Devon, and Leicestershire police about her sighting but, astonishingly, she has not been interviewed to this day.

Speaking at home this week, she told the Sunday Express: “I am happy to speak to Scotland Yard. This woman was just outside Apartment 5a and it didn’t look right. It could be relevant.”



Jennifer Murat was interviewed on 15 May 2007 and failed to mention any of the above in her witness statement. How odd to mention it now.
What's even stranger is that the story has been around for ages, but the woman wasn't named;

A WOMAN was seen acting suspiciously outside Kate and Gerry McCann's apartment just an hour before their daughter Madeleine was abducted.
 
The slim, Portuguese-looking woman in a plum-coloured top and white skirt with long, dark, swept-back hair acted furtively when she was spotted at 8pm on May 3 in 2007 near the Mark Warner Ocean Club complex.
 
She was standing under a streetlight at a crossroads only 40 feet from where Madeleine was sleeping with her brother Sean and his twin sister Amelie.
 
Investigators are being urged to find her to see if she was in any way connected to a pockmarked prowler seen several times outside the apartment in the day leading up to the kidnap.
 
Details of the mystery woman have only just become known after a Sunday Express investigation into the baffling case was alerted by an elderly British woman who has lived in Praia da Luz on Portugal's Algarve for more than 30 years.
 
Speaking from her villa near the Ocean Club, the woman, who has asked not to be named, recalled: "On that night I went to the supermarket at the bottom of the road just before it closed at 8pm.
 
"As I drove past the entrance to the Ocean Club I saw a woman standing opposite Apartment 5A the McCanns were staying in.
 
"Even at that time of night the streets were deserted, so I was surprised to see someone there. I remember thinking it was unusual because it is just not the sort of place you would hang around.
 
"As I drove up to the junction she stepped around to the other side of the street lamp as though she didn't want me to look at her. She was not carrying a bag or a mobile phone. I thought she might have been waiting for a lift but no car came along while I was there.
 
"I turned right and could see quite clearly she was looking at Apartment 5A.
 
"As I approached another junction a small, brown car, with just one English-looking man in it swung round and nearly hit mine."
 
When she heard that Madeleine had vanished she asked a relative to inform the police about her sightings.
Exclusive: Who was the woman outside Maddie's flat? [color:659a=000000]Sunday Express
 
By James Murray
Sunday May 10, 2009

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Post by aiyoyo on 03.05.15 22:31

@notlongnow wrote:S&S getting involved again is good news.
How and why are they privvy to so much info?
No doubt they will make a cock up of it all after last years fiasco.

I don't believe they got involved to help the Mcs spin per se.
They did it for self serving reason, to re plug his (flop) book, something he depended on to make a living. 
OG told them to go read the PJ files, so they must have got it right from the horses' mouths.  Either directly or indirectly via Jim Gamble, or via Martin Brunt.  At the end of the day it matters little if he got it third hand from Brunt/Gamble and Brunt/Gamble got it second hand from CM, it all comes from the principals Kate & Gerry. So it's really just a cycle of circulations really. 
I have no doubt whatsoever the bull manure is fed down the chains from Rothley HQ.

The Mcs are in full control of what comes out of the media via their pink spokes creature. It's in their interest to give out false information to maintain a high profile of "good" image for appearance sake.  The latest bouts of stories about OG chasing burglars - I don't buy it ! They are just carps, more pulp fiction invented by Kate & Gerry. 

S&S are gullible I'd say. They are being made use of by Mcs and Brunt (hence Press) and they probably can't see it for having eyes, too self serving to be objective.
Why Brunt sucks up to Mcs is a $M question, because he's been like a pendulum with the Mcs case.  My initial thought was he's just moving with the flows, but I later see that's not right, because he creates the tide and made the stories. After what he did to BL, I lost all respect for him.

Rather, the truly alarming thing is how journalist got hold of so much private info on Dr.Amaral?  Who exactly could possibly be the Journalist's source?  

Investigative journalism has never been used to pry into or dig dirt on Kate & Gerry's private life, so why Amaral?  Who'd it in for Amaral?  Who desires most to see him destroyed completely?

Yes, same source as above mentioned.  Think about it ! 
The compensation demanded and the freezing of his assets.  
To list his assets, someone had done homework on him for the Mcs.
This has ID dirty signature all over it.
The timing of this story speaks volume. 


Just my opinion.

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Post by Joss on 04.05.15 7:30

@canada12 wrote:
@Joss wrote:
I think the U.S.A. could care less about anything McCann. They have too much other stuff going on in the country right now. On some of the other forums i read at, the McCann case has long been forgotten. There have been other missing/murdered child cases since Madeleine went missing that are more recent that people there blog about, sadly.
I think the only way the USA would be interested in the McCanns would be if they got their own reality show, Gerry had a sex change operation and Kate married Kanye West.
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Ha ha, big grin

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Post by sonic72 on 04.05.15 20:10

@NickE wrote:
Didn´t JT have a fetish for purple/plum?
Diane Webster has a red jacket in the swearing video (at the end).



I thought I'd also add that Kate & Gerry are wearing watches, and Clarence said they didnt wear watches to the tapas bar. We know they wear watches, as can be seen in this video and various photos, and if they were supposed to be checking every 30 mins you'd think they'd not leave their watches in the apartment.

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Post by j.rob on 04.05.15 20:39

Investigative journalism has never been used to pry into or dig dirt on Kate & Gerry's private life, so why Amaral?  Who'd it in for Amaral?  Who desires most to see him destroyed completely?


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This is what is so extraordinary.........so much secrecy over the McCanns' lives prior to 3rd May 2007. So few people have spoken out about them. So few photos of Madeleine. Where are all the friends from nursery, or neighbours or other family friends or anyone.......


Madeleine's birthday parties.....the twins birthday parties.......their Tapas children birthday parties.......etc, etc....


Why is the McCann family past so shrouded in mystery?

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Post by Angelique on 05.05.15 0:27

@j.rob wrote:Investigative journalism has never been used to pry into or dig dirt on Kate & Gerry's private life, so why Amaral?  Who'd it in for Amaral?  Who desires most to see him destroyed completely?


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This is what is so extraordinary.........so much secrecy over the McCanns' lives prior to 3rd May 2007. So few people have spoken out about them. So few photos of Madeleine. Where are all the friends from nursery, or neighbours or other family friends or anyone.......
Madeleine's birthday parties.....the twins birthday parties.......their Tapas children birthday parties.......etc, etc....


Why is the McCann family past so shrouded in mystery?

CM controls everything that comes out in the MSM. Even the past history one presumes.

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Post by aquila on 05.05.15 0:36

@Angelique wrote:
@j.rob wrote:Investigative journalism has never been used to pry into or dig dirt on Kate & Gerry's private life, so why Amaral?  Who'd it in for Amaral?  Who desires most to see him destroyed completely?


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This is what is so extraordinary.........so much secrecy over the McCanns' lives prior to 3rd May 2007. So few people have spoken out about them. So few photos of Madeleine. Where are all the friends from nursery, or neighbours or other family friends or anyone.......
Madeleine's birthday parties.....the twins birthday parties.......their Tapas children birthday parties.......etc, etc....


Why is the McCann family past so shrouded in mystery?

CM controls everything that comes out in the MSM. Even the past history one presumes.
I still find it weird that Clarence doesn't have a wiki entry.

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Post by Joss on 05.05.15 4:19

@j.rob wrote:Investigative journalism has never been used to pry into or dig dirt on Kate & Gerry's private life, so why Amaral?  Who'd it in for Amaral?  Who desires most to see him destroyed completely?


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This is what is so extraordinary.........so much secrecy over the McCanns' lives prior to 3rd May 2007. So few people have spoken out about them. So few photos of Madeleine. Where are all the friends from nursery, or neighbours or other family friends or anyone.......


Madeleine's birthday parties.....the twins birthday parties.......their Tapas children birthday parties.......etc, etc....


Why is the McCann family past so shrouded in mystery?
To paint a picture to the public IMO, that the McC's were totally innocent of any wrongdoing, and their private life was a no no. To paint the picture that the PJ especially  Goncalo Amaral, were a wicked inept lot of cops investigating the case, and to get any dirt on him/them that could skew the views of the public. Just dirty politics and tricks that the McCann spin doctors use to exonerate anything McCann from any wrongdoing, IMO.
And i guess it all worked quite well for them for a while, all the donations coming in from a sympathetic public etc. But after 8 yrs. people are now seeing this for what it has really been all along.

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