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Post by Dr What on 26.03.15 10:20

Quite.

However, the devoted parents and the T7 did work tirelessly:-

1/ In trying to get their story/alibis to dovetail.....totally unsuccessful.

2/ In devising good marketing ploys.....totally successful.

3/ In devising the best ways to spend/invest the monies from the public....totally successful.

4/ In enlisting and paying for an array of lawyers/barristers/public relations consultants to safeguard their interests....totally successful.

%/ In taking legal action against anyone who dares to disbelieve their 'account' of the truth....let's wait and see.

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Post by PeterMac on 26.03.15 10:31

5. (Successful against TB. One hopes NOT against Dr GA)

6. Persecuting and hounding - even unto DEATH - others who do not follow the McCann-Mitchell-Carter-Ruck 'official line' - totally successful !

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.03.15 1:04

@PeterMac wrote:5.  (Successful against TB.  One hopes NOT against Dr GA)

6. Persecuting and hounding - even unto DEATH - others who do not follow the McCann-Mitchell-Carter-Ruck 'official line' - totally successful !

Carter-Ruck 'official line' - totally successful?

Really?

What is/was CR 'official' line?

"Madeleine WAS abducted'?

That worked a treat when CR lawyer, Isobel M, said 'THAT' in her SWORN affidavit a court room, didn't it?

Oh, hang on.................

Didn't she have to, sheepishly, 'withdraw' that 'assertion'?

IN a UK High court and in 'public'!

Because she didn't actually know IF 'that' was true, because 'that' was only what she had been 'TOLD', only, by the 'missing' girl's parents. (CR 'clients')

TOTAL 'FAIL'!

Carter Ruck have NEVER, afaik, ever, 'repeated' their lawyer's 'claim', in public, that 'Madeleine WAS abducted'

istbc.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.03.15 17:13

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Doug D wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566136/Hunt-missing-Madeleine-McCann-should-continue
 
Fairly pointless to post the whole article imo, as it will just make you angry...
True, but...

...neverthelesss...

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Claudia Lawrence arrest proves that the hunt for missing Madeleine McCann should continue

AS A police boss says it’s time to shelve the inquiry, surely this week’s arrest over missing chef Claudia Lawrence proves there’s still hope of a breakthrough.


By ANNA PUKAS
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Wed, Mar 25, 2015



The numbers are undeniably compelling.

Four years; 31 officers of the Metropolitan Police; 33 trips to Portugal; £10million.

There, in cold, unemotional figures, is the cost of the British inquiry in terms of the time, manpower, travel and money which has been spent on investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Expressed in this manner, it is not difficult to understand why some are saying that it is time to scale back the search for the little girl.

After all, it has produced no fruitful new leads or lines of inquiry.

At the same time, the Met is stretched as never before... [SNIPPED]

As British citizens, Kate and Gerry McCann are entitled to all the help the British Government can provide.

The Home Office has set aside a £700,000 fund to keep the search going.

Maddie is out there somewhere...
There is rejoicing at Camp McCann over the number of 'shares' the McCanns' post about Anna Pukas' article has had.

It called for Operation Grange to go on - and to go on - and on and on etc.

Here are the glad tidings from the Find Madeleine FB page, the 'Official Find Madeleine Campaign':

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Thank you to all whom have shared our post about Anna Pukas' article in the Daily Express.

We are extremely grateful for the support.

As of today, it has reached 1,126,912. That's just amazing!

We need to keep it going, so as many people as possible are looking for Madeleine.

From the bottom of my heart, thank YOU! 

~FM Webmaster

UNQUOTE

Admittedly a 'share' is somewhat easier to do than sign a petition, but all the same, a million-plus shares that Anna Pukas' article has achieved makes the 1,887 folk who have signed Helen Williamson's petition, calling for an inquiry into Operation Grange, look really pathetic by comparison.

The McCanns retain 100% support from the mainstream media - and still huge support from the general public. Their public relations staff have done their job very well; for what they have received for their efforts, may they be truly thankful

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Post by Praiaaa on 29.03.15 17:29


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Post by Guest on 29.03.15 18:19

Do the McCanns seriously believe that OG is searching for their daughter?  IMO, OG is looking for those responsible for her disappearance and probable death.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.03.15 21:48

"We must never give up hope on Madeleine" - Lorraine Kelley, Sunday Post, 29 March 2015


Lorraine sez...

(Points of interest in red, errors in blue)



If you look at it in terms of cold hard cash then I suppose you can understand why a police chief is saying it is time to stop looking for Madeleine McCann.

The chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, John Tully, believes it is time to wind down the investigation.

The best efforts of the Met Police since they began their own inquiry in 2011 haven’t really turned up anything new and the cost had been at least £10 million.

And yet, how can you put a financial figure on the life of a little girl, and how can you walk away from this utterly heartbreaking case when her fate remains unknown.

As we are all aware, three year old Madeleine disappeared on May 4, 2007, while her Mum and Dad were out having a meal with their friends during their holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

Since then Kate and Gerry McCann have worked tirelessly to find their daughter.

I have interviewed them many times I am always struck by their determination and optimism.

Even now after almost nine years they refuse to give up hope. And who can blame them. No parent can ever give up on their child.

Poor Kerry Needham has never wavered in her determination to find her son Ben, who disappeared on the island of Kos in Greece 23 years ago. She has campaigned to have money made available to try to find Ben and there’s a hard-working movement on social media to keep the hunt alive. She will never stop searching and hoping and neither will Kate and Gerry.

And there are plenty of stories to keep that hope alive.

A woman in South Africa was recently reunited with her daughter after she had been missing for 17 years. Celeste Nurse was still in hospital after having given birth to her baby when the child was snatched from the ward at just three days old. The kidnapper was finally discovered all of those years later.

Celeste said not a day went by when she didn’t think about her missing child and she wrote to Kate and Gerry McCann telling them that miracles can happen.

So while there are calls to stop the search for Madeleine on the grounds of cost and manpower concerns, should we really be giving up on this poor child and others like her?

Imagine now you would feel if it was your son or daughter who was missing. You would do anything in your power to find them and that’s exactly how all the parents of disappeared sons and daughters feel.

There are some things that just shouldn’t have a price tag.


http://www.sundaypost.com/news-views/columnists/lorraine-kelly/we-should-never-give-up-hope-on-madeleine-1.857284

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Post by Sam S on 30.03.15 7:07

I agree "Lorraine" there are some things so valuable that you cannot  put a "price tag" on them....like keeping your children safe from harm.

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Post by ChippyM on 30.03.15 13:01

Ladyinred wrote:Do the McCanns seriously believe that OG is searching for their daughter?  IMO, OG is looking for those responsible for her disappearance and probable death.

 Yes, OG is looking for what happened to a missing girl, most likely a death and concealment of a body, not the missing girl herself.  An article titled 'should we stop looking for Madeliene' is just more subtle propaganda continuing the myth that there is a living girl somewhere that needs to be found!

..... and again another person who is clinging onto the myth - Lorraine Kelly 'how can you put a financial figure on the life of a little girl' . There is no little girl Lorraine, this is not a fairy story where a little girl has been kept locked up for years by some strangely benevolent captors just waiting to be rescued. Someone snatching a new born baby to raise as their child is not the same as someone targeting a 4 year old, who had 2 younger more docile siblings right next to her. OG is not looking for a living girl, as confirmed by Sir Bernard Hogan Howe and Andy Redwood.  Lorraine is so naive and dare I say it as thick as a plank!
 

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Post by aquila on 30.03.15 13:13

When a cadaver dog enters a building, sniffs a car, sniffs clothes and reacts it can't be ignored, pushed to one side (see Summers & Swan who met with Andy Redwood and swept away all dog evidence), it can't be irrelevant.

Madeleine's parents have completely discounted these dogs.

To have dogs signal the scent of cadaver in the apartment where Madeleine went missing is something her parents need to explain to the general public when they ask for donations to find a living Madeleine.

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Post by plebgate on 30.03.15 13:17

When the police first started searching for Maddie they used dogs during the search.    Did Mr. & Mrs. have doubts about those dogs' capabilities I wonder?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 30.03.15 13:56

@plebgate wrote:When the police first started searching for Maddie they used dogs during the search.    Did Mr. & Mrs. have doubts about those dogs' capabilities I wonder?

Listen:

If a 'bomb/explosives' dog 'alerted' to 'something' on a plane the McCanns were 'on', waiting for 'take off', they'd be off of that plane quicker than you could say, ' FORGET that blue holdall, Gerry!'

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Post by HelenMeg on 30.03.15 15:40

Ha Ha JM - well said!


As for Lorraine - as a responsible broadcaster she should shut up on this case and stop trying to brainwash her public. She is biased regarding what is still a 'live' and ongoing  investigation and therefore
is not acting responsibly IMO.

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Post by Daryl Dixon on 30.03.15 17:42

@jeanmonroe wrote:
Listen:

If a 'bomb/explosives' dog 'alerted' to 'something' on a plane the McCanns were 'on', waiting for 'take off', they'd be off of that plane quicker than you could say, ' FORGET that blue holdall, Gerry!'
However, if the aircraft was searched and no bomb found, then the aircraft would take off regardless of the dog alerts...

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Post by Knitted on 30.03.15 18:06

@Daryl Dixon wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:
Listen:

If a 'bomb/explosives' dog 'alerted' to 'something' on a plane the McCanns were 'on', waiting for 'take off', they'd be off of that plane quicker than you could say, ' FORGET that blue holdall, Gerry!'
However, if the aircraft was searched and no bomb found, then the aircraft would take off regardless of the dog alerts...
True

... but has it ever been the case that two different dogs (with some of the best performance records in the business) both alerted to the same plane...with alerts overlapping in one specific location of that plane... and yet no explosives ever having actually been on that plane?

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Post by NickE on 31.03.15 18:55

Thank´s "Teddy".


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Post by lj on 31.03.15 19:02

@NickE wrote:Thank´s "Teddy".

I thought she was living with a couple with nice fluffy towels?

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Post by By Numbers on 02.04.15 0:44

"child’s abduction was discovered by her mother"
"ran back to the restaurant in hysterics to raise the alarm"


So, in David Jones' eyes, she was abducted and her mother ran back to the restaurant, leaving two babies alone presumably? If only his eye for detail had been used in the investigation he disparages so readily.

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Post by Sam S on 02.04.15 7:08

Why did she have to run back anywhere to raise the alarm? Wasn't it just like they were eating in their back garden? nah

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Post by Doug D on 02.04.15 7:31

Snippet from Private Eye this week. Clearly following the case closely, but still very wary of actually passing comment:
 
Jahbulon ‪@Broomleigh
Private Eye, 3 April 2015, page 6: ‪#McCann media manipulation and the tabloids. ‪#McCanns The late ‪#MadeleineMcCann ‪pic.twitter.com/KLouDZc5Uh
 


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Post by Lands_end on 02.04.15 9:53

@lj wrote:
@NickE wrote:Thank´s "Teddy".

I thought she was living with a couple with nice fluffy towels?
Well according to DE she is being held in a "Hellish Lair" in the "Lawless Hills". Quite what sort of research he undertook to establish these facts is anyones guess. Did he vist one of these "Lairs" perchance to lead him to this conclusion? Fill in the gaps please someone in the know.

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Post by PeterMac on 02.04.15 10:03

@Lands_end wrote:
Well according to DE she is being held in a "Hellish Lair" in the "Lawless Hills". Quite what sort of research he undertook to establish these facts is anyones guess. Did he vist one of these "Lairs" perchance to lead him to this conclusion? Fill in the gaps please someone in the know.

Mitchell was with him when he said that, so one supposes Mitchell also believes it.
In any event none of the McCann Team has ever said anything different, or sought to resile from that position, so we must assume they all believe it.
Which then raises a question.
The Hellish Lair was said to be within 10 miles of PdL.
A circle with radius 10 miles has an area of 300 square miles. But half of that is in the sea.
So there was only 150 square miles to search.

Most of that is towns, roads, cultivated fields, and golf courses, which probably then leaves only 30 square miles of "Lawless Hinterland"
They have had 8 YEARS, nearly 3000 days.   So 100 days per square mile.

They could have done this on their hands and knees.

The fact is Edgar and Mitchell are both CRETINS.

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 02.04.15 10:33

@Sam S wrote:Why did she have to run back anywhere to raise the alarm? Wasn't it just like they were eating in their back garden? nah


KM was just a poor lowly paid GP with little or no resources at her disposal. If only she had a flashlight, semaphore flags, her arms, phone or effing voice to raise the alarm. But poor Kate had none of these precious resources at her disposal, just her speed of thought and renowned fleet of foot.

What may have happened had the burglartor been still lying in wait in the wardrobe? Would all 3 children have ‘disappeared’?  Good job KM was so damn sure that the burglator from the hellish lairs in the Silves Mountains had already gone. Vanished into the dark, wind wooshing, two jumpers cold, really quite warm PdeL night. Vanished passed the druggies, hordes of fake charidy collectors, dodge van drivers, GM, MO, JT, JW and the Tapas 9 almost failsafe checking system through the locked/open doors/jemmied windows – with the side step of Brian Driscoll, elusiveness of the Scarlet Pimpernel and Harry Potter cloak of invisibility.

TM and PJ really stood no chance. The Pentagon is desperate to catch this burglartor too, to deploy his stealth technology on its latest range of military hardware.

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