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Helium Overdose?

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Couple of points

Post by justathought on 11.03.15 20:35

Interesting use of a headline of "Gas KO of "troll"". The KO does not ring true for a jouno too write.
As to helium overdose. Have knowledge of how it operates. Not widely reported as a form of suicide for obvious reasons. You need to source sufficent helium and the means to inhale it. If there was such evidence in the hotel room, when Brenda was discovered, then a compelling case. But the coroners court would not have leaked this information, prior to the final hearing..

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Post by whatsupdoc on 20.03.15 13:50

So there was a leak at the Coroner's Court and the helium story was correct which was not for release to the press/media before the Final Hearing.

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Post by BlueBag on 20.03.15 13:55

How was the helium delivered to the hotel?

There must be a trail.

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Post by whatsupdoc on 20.03.15 13:58

As the inquest didn't last long, I doubt if the Coroner investigated any CCTV footage or other possible proof that Brenda took anything into the hotel.

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Post by worriedmum on 20.03.15 14:00

Will any further legal process to take place?

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Post by aquila on 20.03.15 14:06

@worriedmum wrote:Will any further legal process to take place?
I shouldn't think so unless the relatives ask/pay for an independent post mortem which by the looks of things is unlikely.

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Post by aiyoyo on 20.03.15 16:51

@BlueBag wrote:How was the helium delivered to the hotel?

There must be a trail.


It's easy to hide a small canister in the handbag.

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Post by aiyoyo on 20.03.15 17:07

@aquila wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:Will any further legal process to take place?
I shouldn't think so unless the relatives ask/pay for an independent post mortem which by the looks of things is unlikely.


Not sure about that.  
Depending if her family will pursue MB.  The evidence he gave in court is sufficient imo to sue him for his actions of hounding her (laying in wait 3 hours for her return after he'd doorstepped her) and negligence of her well being - pushing her over the edge with airing of the programme despite knowing her unstable state of mind.

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Post by BlueBag on 20.03.15 17:08

@aiyoyo wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:How was the helium delivered to the hotel?

There must be a trail.

It's easy to hide a small canister in the handbag.
It probably is.

I just like higher standards of proof than "this is what happened trust us".

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Post by carilina on 20.03.15 18:03



So does it mean there is a different way of dying by helium overdose than using these huge canisters and a plastic bag? I mean, can you really be successful just using a small canister of helium that is used to blow up balloons?

You certainly couldn't take a big canister like that into a hotel room.

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Post by aquila on 20.03.15 18:16

Is there anything said in today's inquest that has given proof of the helium canisters by way of photographs taken at the scene/receipts/cctv of Brenda buying helium/on-line purchase etc?

Were statements given by the hotel staff who found her read out in the inquest or was this information submitted only to the Coroner?

I'm at a loss as to how it took about 3 hours to sign this off.

I'm hoping for a transcript of the proceedings.

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Post by Naz_Nomad on 20.03.15 21:53

What's that I smell?  Oh yeah.  Bulls**t.

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Post by littlepixie on 21.03.15 0:17

Just having cannisters  of helium and a web page open doesn't mean that someone actually killed themselves by helium overdose. 
The medications and alcohol she had ingested wasn't enough to kill her. There is no toxicology test to determine helium overdose SO was Brenda found with rubber tubing and a bag and mask over her head?

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Post by LG on 21.03.15 1:53

Nothing more than two canisters, small fire extinguisher sized by hand measurement, according to PC Taylor..


With regards to the Daily Star article, I wonder when Sky's legal team received copies of the witness statements?

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Post by Richard D. Hall on 21.03.15 13:31

It looks to me like a classic problem reaction solution "Hagalian dialectic".  Create the problem (people killing themselves over the McCann issue), get a reaction - which we are seeing now in the media and soon to follow will be the "solution".  Which I predict will be to pass some sort of emergency legislation allowing them to close down websites and internet content that could be considered negative towards the McCann's.  Wouldn't surprise me if the government make an announcement on it.  I hope I am wrong.  The helium suicide is very unlikely in my opinion, I suspect murder made to look like suicide.  In my view whole thing is a psy-op orchestrated probably my Murdoch and MI5.  I was approached by a journalist acting for the Guardian the other day.  They are preparing an article (probably hit piece) on the fact that people do not think the media are asking the right questions in relation to the McCann's.  They were desperate to get me on camera to make comments.  They refused to agree to my conditions, which were mainly that they show me the piece before it airs so I can check it for accuracy - so I did not give them an interview.  I suspect they are planning a hit piece on the "beliefs" of those who have found information on the internet about the McCann case. The journalist is Jenny Kleeman.

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Post by aiyoyo on 21.03.15 13:45

@ Richard Hall.

I suspect you are right to be suspicious of MSM.
Even if she were to agree to your conditions to let you view the piece first for accuracy before it airs, it still won't be a guaranty that the piece aired will be the piece shown to you.

Mainstream journalists are known to play dirty like that, and they will excuse it to something else beyond their control.



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Post by Richard D. Hall on 21.03.15 14:04

I suspect once the result of the inquest has permeated through peoples brains, we will see a politician demanding or setting out actions to be taken by parliament.  This forum and my films would be in their sights.  I really hope they don't try it, I can't imagine what would ensue if they do.

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Post by aiyoyo on 21.03.15 14:36

I suspect you are right again.  
The coroner calling for helium canisters sale to be regulated, coming only now post BL demise is too convenient, when hers is not the only case of victim of helium inhalation.  Why was it not advocated or done earlier?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 21.03.15 14:40

@Richard D. Hall wrote:I suspect once the result of the inquest has permeated through peoples brains, we will see a politician demanding or setting out actions to be taken by parliament.  This forum and my films would be in their sights.  I really don't hope they try it, I can't imagine what would ensue if they do.

The way Esther McVey 'speaks' it seems, to me, anyway, she's been on the 'helium/laffing gas' for years!

WHAT is that 'accent', she speaks?

POSH 'scouse'?

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