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Becky Watts: Another girl gone missing

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Re: Becky Watts: Another girl gone missing

Post by ultimaThule on 05.03.15 0:39

@jeanmonroe wrote:

What did 'stepmum' 'know'?

If anything?

Ime when it comes to knowing what their children have been up to, nothing much gets past a mum.

For the police to have wrapped this case up so quickly someone has been singing like a canary and no doubt there'll be further revelations over the course of the next few days.

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Post by columbostogeys on 05.03.15 5:44

@Benion wrote:I do not think we should begrudge the family a few thousand for a decent send off in such horrible circumstances.
I think its almost indecent that people are....who cares I dont. Do people think they are cashing in on the death of their daughter for godsake?

They certainly wouldnt have enough money to give her a beautiful funeral that's for sure, even if they got 1,500 off government eventually it hardly pays for the flowers now. I hope she has a wonderful send off, the poor thing, to die is hard enough, but to be disrespected and cut up in bits to be thrown away in the garbage is beyond belief.

Perhaps if they collect more then they need, they could set up a fund for the 2 year old who has lost both her parents to be kept for her when she goes to college. That poor child little does she know that she was born into a murdering family.....I cant forgive the mother, i think she is as bad as her partner to even help him...i would have gone screaming to the police. I cant get it around my head......

Anyway i wish people would stop moaning about 2 funds who cares....

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Update from the BBC

Post by uppatoffee on 05.03.15 10:45

Nathan Matthews, stepbrother of Bristol teenager Becky Watts, has appeared in court charged with her murder.
The 28-year-old, of Warmley, Bristol, was arrested by police at the weekend following the discovery of body parts in a Barton Hill house.
He was remanded by Bristol Magistrates' Court to appear before the crown court on Friday.
His girlfriend Shauna Hoare, 21, also appeared charged with intending to pervert the course of justice.
She will appear before the crown court for a preliminary hearing on 2 April. There was no application for bail.
Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare were arrested at the weekend
Four other men and a woman, all in their 20s, are still being questioned on suspicion of assisting an offender.
On Wednesday morning, magistrates granted police a further 24 hours to question two men aged 29, two aged 23 and a woman aged 23, who had been arrested earlier in the week.
Becky, 16, was last seen on 19 February and was reported missing the following day.
Floral tributes have been left near that property and outside Becky's home in the St George area of the city.

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Post by ultimaThule on 05.03.15 10:58

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-live-updates-stepbrother-5277238

Becky's stepbrother, Nathan Matthews, has been charged with her murder and has been remanded in custody until tomorrow when he will appear at Bristol Crown Court via a video link.

His girlfriend, Shauna Hoare, has been charged with perverting the course of justice and has been remanded in custody until April 2nd.

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Post by comperedna on 05.03.15 15:19

Legal eagles please chip in on this. As we are discussing the Becky Watts case on a public forum, should we shop now the pair have been charged and have appeared in court? We don't want them saying 'we couldn't get a fair trial because of what was published on the Net?  Jurors could have been influenced by it.' What does admin advise?

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Post by Benion on 05.03.15 16:08

yes perhaps the thread should be pulled down

I really want justice for becky and do not want anything prejudicing it

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Post by TMH on 05.03.15 16:33

@columbostogeys wrote:
@Benion wrote:I do not think we should begrudge the family a few thousand for a decent send off in such horrible circumstances.
I think its almost indecent that people are....who cares I dont. Do people think they are cashing in on the death of their daughter for godsake?

They certainly wouldnt have enough money to give her a beautiful funeral that's for sure, even if they got 1,500 off government eventually it hardly pays for the flowers now. I hope she has a wonderful send off, the poor thing, to die is hard enough, but to be disrespected and cut up in bits to be thrown away in the garbage is beyond belief.

Perhaps if they collect more then they need, they could set up a fund for the 2 year old who has lost both her parents to be kept for her when she goes to college. That poor child little does she know that she was born into a murdering family.....I cant forgive the mother, i think she is as bad as her partner to even help him...i would have gone screaming to the police. I cant get it around my head......

Anyway i wish people would stop moaning about 2 funds who cares....
NO! I don't think they are cashing in on their dead daughter!! She deserves the best send off she can get. It isn't even the direct family members who started the main fund, it's a friend as far as I can see - and that is why people are asking if the funds are legit as it's unusual to have 2.

I haven't seen anyone moaning about the funds, just questioning why 2 have been started that's all. Sheesh! Some people need to take a chill pill

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Post by BlueBag on 05.03.15 17:05

@Benion wrote:yes perhaps the thread should be pulled down

I really want justice for becky and do not want anything prejudicing it

Don't worry... the papers will be much worse.

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Post by comperedna on 05.03.15 17:16

I always click on 'posts since you last logged on' rather than Portal, so I never note what is 'members' lounge' and what is public... I think you are right about the newspapers.

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Post by comperedna on 05.03.15 17:23

For many families, particularly those who have little money, a big 'send off' for someone who has died in tragic circumstances... glass hearses, horses and all, and very large floral tributes with what others feel are OTT, is part of the culture and the grieving process. They would feel bad if they didn't do it... disrepectful, so to speak. Just saying...

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Post by plebgate on 06.03.15 9:06

@comperedna wrote:For many families, particularly those who have little money, a big 'send off' for someone who has died in tragic circumstances... glass hearses, horses and all, and very large floral tributes with what others feel are OTT, is part of the culture and the grieving process. They would feel bad if they didn't do it... disrepectful, so to speak. Just saying...
Yes, thinking about it comperedna you are right- it does seem to be that way.

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Re: Becky Watts: Another girl gone missing

Post by Tony Bennett on 06.03.15 14:30

Another FOUR charged - with 'Assisting an Offender':

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31765767

Here are three of them:






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Post by columbostogeys on 07.03.15 5:22

@Tony Bennett wrote:Another FOUR charged - with 'Assisting an Offender':

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31765767

Here are three of them:





It beggars belief anyone could KNOWINGLY help someone move a body that had been dismembered, in my mind they are as guilty as the person who killed her in the first place, they should have reported it to the police. They have now ruined their own lives, daughters and parents......what hold has this Nathan got on them, that they would do something like this, makes me wonder if there wasnt some sort of gang involved, drugs or something....it makes no sense to me, why anyone would help. That poor girl, thrown away like the garbage, I hope they all rot in hell.

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Re: Becky Watts: Another girl gone missing

Post by lj on 07.03.15 6:26

I suspect in this case alcohol and drugs play a major role. Both cloud your judgement. They will have quite something to mull about when the hangover slowly subsides.

BTW I have always been convinced that at least alcohol played a major role in the McCann case. Many questions like "how could they" become clear when you consider that each and everyone of them was well over the legal limit.

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Post by ChippyM on 08.03.15 11:31

@lj wrote:I suspect in this case alcohol and drugs play a major role. Both cloud your judgement. They will have quite something to mull about when the hangover slowly subsides.

BTW I have always been convinced that at least alcohol played a major role in the McCann case. Many questions like "how could they" become clear when you consider that each and everyone of them was well over the legal limit.

I agree. It's a great British pastime these days to get absolutely hammered on drugs and booze at the weekend and there are all kinds of nasty legal highs with mind warping effects to choose from too. Most normal people in a normal state would be absolutely repulsed at the thought of covering up things in the way they did.

      In the McCann case too I suspect alcohol and possibly drugs. Doctors have good access to drugs and possibly a false sense of security, believing their intellect and training means they can control all the outcomes.

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Post by aiyoyo on 09.03.15 11:13

6 people charged in total, quite a large group cover up, not unlike the other case - a pact to remain silent.

I might have missed it, but I have not read the motive stated in the papers.  

Often times Police and Prosecutor have to work out the "motive" to support circumstantial evidence especially if forensic evidence is in short supply.  
But in said case where the body if discovered and recovered, and assuming forensic evidence is in abundance, I wonder if Prosecutor needs to include "motive" in their case argument?

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Re: Becky Watts: Another girl gone missing

Post by Tony Bennett on 10.03.15 14:59

Today's story - and yesterday's.

++++++++++++++++++ 


Becky Watts' grandmother: 'I was convinced she had run away and was waiting for her call'
by The Bristol Post | Posted: March 09, 2015

                   



The grandmother of Becky Watts has thanked the people of Bristol for their compassion during her family's ordeal. The 16-year-old's body was discovered in Barton Hill following a massive police operation to find the schoolgirl, who had been missing for 11 days.

Her gran, Pat Watts, made an emotion plea when Becky first disappeared and believed the teenager had just run away.

But the 67-year-old from Henbury, along with Becky's mum Tanya and her brother Daniel, 20, were left heartbroken when parts of her body were found last week.

Speaking to the Bristol Post, Pat said: "I would like to thank all the people of Bristol and the country for the compassion they have shown us throughout this ordeal.

"I like everyone was convinced she had just run away and was just waiting for her call.

"The last week has been terrible for us, but we have been shown great support.

"People have done so much and I want to thank them."

"For the first time yesterday I had a wonderful sense of peace. I am a spiritual person and I feel Becky is around," she added.

Pat in particular thanked her neighbours and Viking Vets in Henbury who had helped care for the family's pets, made meals and provided other practical support.

She said police had also been a great help to the family in such a difficult time.

Becky Watts: Police confirm all her missing belongings have been found

Posted: March 10, 2015


Police have confirmed they have found all the missing belongings of Becky Watts.

The 16-year-old was last seen at her Crown Hill home in St George on Thursday, February 19 and 11 days later her body parts were discovered at an address in Barton Hill.

During the extensive police search for Becky, officers were keen to trace her laptop, phone and a computer tablet, which were reported as missing at the same time as her.

A spokesman for Avon and Somerset police confirmed all her property has now been recovered


Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Becky-Watts-Police-confirm-missing-belongings/story-26146685-detail/story.html#ixzz3TzjNObbI

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Post by aiyoyo on 10.03.15 22:33

No mention was made where her belongings were recovered from.  PC and phone usually yield up plenty of clues.

We have yet to hear of the motive.  I'm curious to know the motive.

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Post by aquila on 10.03.15 22:42

@aiyoyo wrote:No mention was made where her belongings were recovered from.  PC and phone usually yield up plenty of clues.

We have yet to hear of the motive.  I'm curious to know the motive.
Aiyoyo, all will be made clear when the case is brought before the Court and a jury.

Until a verdict is reached it's sub judice.

I have faith in this prosecution.

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Post by Guest on 10.03.15 22:43

@aiyoyo wrote:No mention was made where her belongings were recovered from.  PC and phone usually yield up plenty of clues.

We have yet to hear of the motive.  I'm curious to know the motive.
We have to be patient and wait for the court case.

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Post by jozi on 11.03.15 8:56

Ladyinred wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:No mention was made where her belongings were recovered from.  PC and phone usually yield up plenty of clues.

We have yet to hear of the motive.  I'm curious to know the motive.
We have to be patient and wait for the court case.
Yes we do and they are also not saying where they found her things or what is on the phone or computers either which is good, IMO.

Very sad case though, the people who should love and protect her turns out to be her killer, it also reminds me of Tia Sharp and her dysfunctional family.

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Post by aiyoyo on 11.03.15 9:52

@jozi wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:No mention was made where her belongings were recovered from.  PC and phone usually yield up plenty of clues.

We have yet to hear of the motive.  I'm curious to know the motive.
We have to be patient and wait for the court case.
Yes we do and they are also not saying where they found her things or what is on the phone or computers either which is good, IMO.

Very sad case though, the people who should love and protect her turns out to be her killer, it also reminds me of Tia Sharp and her dysfunctional family.

She least expected to be in danger with family members.  Always the case of an innocent girl too trusting because very ignorant of the evils in people.

Wonder how he lures her there, was his fiance and friends gathered there as well?  Did she go believing she was socially with her stepbro his g/friend and people her age?
Was it a squabble gone wrong, and was she sexually assaulted?
What blows my mind is why a group of friends including his fiance helped him cover up the crime and hoped to get away with it. Unless they were complicit in it in more than as accessories to the crime, as they were participants as accomplices in perpetrating the crime against her. 

The details of his fiance and friends complicity in it have yet to be revealed.

Did they find themselves at the scene by accident, as in a case of found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, or did they show up later to help the murderder dispose of the body or were they told about it but decided to remain silent, not to give him in?

The Police in this case are handling it very well and giving very little away.

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Post by Constablekid on 25.03.15 0:43

I think the next hearing is scheduled for this Thursday?

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Post by jozi on 25.03.15 9:04

@Constablekid wrote:I think the next hearing is scheduled for this Thursday?
Good. perhaps we will know more then......What hearing is this for, does anybody know ? I thought everyone had been charged and it all was waiting for a date for the trial !!!

Or am I wrong !!!

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