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***NEW 14.10.16 - CHED EVANS NOT GUILTY*** (was: CHED EVANS WINS APPEAL 21.4.16 RAPE CONVICTION QUASHED*** (was: Ched Evans case))

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Post by willowthewisp on 19.10.16 17:21

Monidipa Fouzder,speaks only about the"Beautiful Game" and the right for her client to return to the upper Echelons of the Football Association?
At no time does Miss Foudzer make reference to how her client and cohort friends had decided to premeditate an action to be secretly filmed of a sex act being performed by Two Males on a Female in a pre-booked Hotel Room,where the aforementioned act was to be carried out?
The"Public"can now see for themselves,this has very little regard for the accuser,but about an"Institution,FA,PFA"being caught in the Rabbit like Headlights,with various less salubrious characters known for their associations on"sexual revelations"during their Football on and after careers?
Once again what has become apparent is"Manipulation of the Media"PR as highlighted by Miss Fouzder,stipulating that(MF)was not involved with how they conducted the Media!
Mis Fouzder,makes no reference to her client having knowledge of the "New Witnesses"under Section 41 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act,No Complainant in a Rape Trail should be Gratuitously challenged about her Sexual past,of which the accuser was challenged?
Was Ched Evans a Youth when he entered into the Rhyl Hotel,yet Miss Fouzder states No Effect in future Rape Trails?
So Natasha Massey(Cheds Fiance)are Millionaires and(Miss Massey)via Facebook approached the Hotel Receptionist after Ched's Conviction to assist her in any Future  Re-Trails,the Hotel Receptionist had told Police, that the Complainant was"Out of It"upon arrival at the Hotel on the night of the incident.  Mrs Justice Nichola Davies did not allow Miss Massey's approach,to the Witness to be put before the Jury at Cheds acquittal Trail and a Private Investigator brought evidence(Z) into Court in September 2015, that he had spoken to Cheds legal Team at the Original Trail in 2012 but failed to produce him then as a witness for the Defence,(one of the peeping Toms)but his evidence was allowed in 2016?  The£50,000 reward money is waiting to be collected, that was instigated in 2012, wonder if Y or Z step forward for to collect it?

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Post by G-Unit on 19.10.16 18:13

This case wasn't about the very bad behaviour of Evans and his mates. It was about whether he raped anyone. Neither he nor the girl involved thought he'd raped her, it was the police and the CPS who decided that he had. The courts found him guilty and he went to prison. On his release a massive campaign ensured that he was unable to continue with his career. 

His conviction has now been overturned. Whether people like it or not he is now innocent of raping anyone. The question remaining is why he was found guilty when he didn't do it?

The reason is that the law says a woman who is drunk can't give her consent to sex even if she thinks she can. 

Taking that to it's logical conclusion, when a married couple get drunk and have sex, the husband is, in law, raping his wife.

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Post by willowthewisp on 19.10.16 18:47

Hi G-Unit,Bad Behaviour wasn't on Trail,But consensual Sex was at the Centre of the Trail,Non-consensual Sex is classed as a charge of Rape and when Two Males are precluded to have had sex with the same person,consent has to be to both parties?
Mr Clayton and any sexual intercourse with the complainant was consensual,Mr Evans obtained a Key from the Receptionist to Enter into the Hotel Room,not the complainant,He(Mr Evan's)scuttled away via the fire Exit after Mr Evan's close Associate cohorts had obtained their secret recordings of the event?
So If Mr Evans had Consensual sex,why didn't his close cohorts produce their evidence to the Court at the first Trail,because they had deleted such evidence?
This case involves Money and we all know what certain people can be persuaded to do for special friends,ask Rebekah Brooks and dodgy Dave Cameron and Operation Grange on a larger scale?

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Post by G-Unit on 19.10.16 21:34

@willowthewisp wrote:Hi G-Unit,Bad Behaviour wasn't on Trail,But consensual Sex was at the Centre of the Trail,Non-consensual Sex is classed as a charge of Rape and when Two Males are precluded to have had sex with the same person,consent has to be to both parties?
Mr Clayton and any sexual intercourse with the complainant was consensual,Mr Evans obtained a Key from the Receptionist to Enter into the Hotel Room,not the complainant,He(Mr Evan's)scuttled away via the fire Exit after Mr Evan's close Associate cohorts had obtained their secret recordings of the event?
So If Mr Evans had Consensual sex,why didn't his close cohorts produce their evidence to the Court at the first Trail,because they had deleted such evidence?
This case involves Money and we all know what certain people can be persuaded to do for special friends,ask Rebekah Brooks and dodgy Dave Cameron and Operation Grange on a larger scale?
The man is now innocent, you may as well give up rehashing the details because it's over. The police and the CPS brought a case based solely on the issue of 'consent' and it failed to stick.

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Post by willowthewisp on 19.10.16 23:53

Hi G-Unit,I note that you failed to say anything about the"New Witness Evidence"stating the Prosecution case failed to stick.
What actually happened was an inducement of £50,000 to be paid to any person's who "could provide"assistance to clear Mr Evan's former conviction,where upon "Two Males came forward to offer evidence of"Character assassination"of the Complainant at the Re-trail?
Ask the Witnesses Y & Z,do they know Mr Evans or were present at the scene of the Crime filming the event,don't forget,"Perverting the Course of Justice is a prison sentence,even for Millionaires,ask Lord Archer?

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Post by G-Unit on 21.10.16 14:47

@willowthewisp wrote:Hi G-Unit,I note that you failed to say anything about the"New Witness Evidence"stating the Prosecution case failed to stick.
What actually happened was an inducement of £50,000 to be paid to any person's who "could provide"assistance to clear Mr Evan's former conviction,where upon "Two Males came forward to offer evidence of"Character assassination"of the Complainant at the Re-trail?
Ask the Witnesses Y & Z,do they know Mr Evans or were present at the scene of the Crime filming the event,don't forget,"Perverting the Course of Justice is a prison sentence,even for Millionaires,ask Lord Archer?
As I keep saying, it's over. If there was anything wrong with the Appeal decision that's something for others to decide. 

My interest has always been in the question of consent and in the behaviour of certain people who took it upon themselves to ensure that Ched Evans was punished over and above the punishment handed down by the courts.

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Post by willowthewisp on 21.10.16 17:51

@G-Unit wrote:
@willowthewisp wrote:Hi G-Unit,I note that you failed to say anything about the"New Witness Evidence"stating the Prosecution case failed to stick.
What actually happened was an inducement of £50,000 to be paid to any person's who "could provide"assistance to clear Mr Evan's former conviction,where upon "Two Males came forward to offer evidence of"Character assassination"of the Complainant at the Re-trail?
Ask the Witnesses Y & Z,do they know Mr Evans or were present at the scene of the Crime filming the event,don't forget,"Perverting the Course of Justice is a prison sentence,even for Millionaires,ask Lord Archer?
As I keep saying, it's over. If there was anything wrong with the Appeal decision that's something for others to decide. 

My interest has always been in the question of consent and in the behaviour of certain people who took it upon themselves to ensure that Ched Evans was punished over and above the punishment handed down by the courts.
Hi G-Unit,the punishment handed down by the Court,included that Mr Evan's to be placed on the Register of Sexual Offences Act.
This was part of his punishment and this included certain restrictions to be applied as per the Sexual Offences Act.  
This was then When Mr Evan's and his legal Team Realised upon his release from his Prison Term,both the Football Association and the Players Football Association knew the Legal predicament they now faced over Mr Evan's future Football Career was in jeopardy,hence the ultimate need to have the"Original Guilty Verdict" to be overturned,which would then enable Mr Evan's to resume his Football Career?
By"Certain person's"is this the Complainant or the MSM who Orchestrated Mr Evan's case in explicit detail,then realised it effected his future career?
Now Mr Evan's has been found"Not Guilty" to the Original charges he faced,as you say he is "Free" to take up his Football career,which ultimately was what All the fuss was about, but it wasn't his Football career that got him in trouble it was his conduct off the Pitch that was the problem,he was a major player in"Organising the Hotel"wasn't he?
You can lead a Horse to Water,but you cannot make it drink it,he(Mr Evan's) was summoned to the Hotel by his Friend Mr Clayton,Ched then couldn't help himself,Could he after obtaining the Key to the Locked Room,where the complainant was a sleep?
Mr Evan's was aware of what he was about to undertake,Mr Clayton had left the accuser asleep,then Mr Evan's disappeared like a"Fine upstanding gentleman,Not"via the fire exit,after his close friends had filmed the escapade?

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Post by willowthewisp on 22.10.16 16:52

Well,Well,who would have thought it, not long after Mr Evan's Trail,Two more Professional Footballers are facing a Civil Court case,which the complainant is seeking £500,000 for actions taken against her body,when the person was in a state of Intoxication?
The Police had previously stated their was not enough Evidence to proceed to a Criminal Trial,when it was reported to them,a Civil case is based on the"Probability" of the event having taken place,based on the Witnesses accounts of what did or did not happen!
Wonder if they have got in touch with Miss Fouzder's legal Team to represent them,as one of the Footballers has decided to self representation in the legal process action taken against them!
Scottish FA or PFA officials at the ready to defend the Court actions or they left out on a limb?

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Post by willowthewisp on 27.10.16 15:57

So the UK Government is to look at the possibility of changing the Law with regard to how the"Complainants past" is to be brought before future Rape Trails within the UK,this was in regard to how the"character assassination"is related to the Complainants past sexual history,being raised by the Defendants Legal Team,Ched Evan's "New Witness Evidence"?
Does this mean that the Defendant's past can also be revealed to the Court in that same process? bignono

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