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Post by jeanmonroe on 05.03.15 12:34

HelenMeg wrote:

"I believe Redwood was perhaps not in the right job."
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On the 'contrary', imo.

HE, alone, (or on 'orders' from 'above'?) it has to be said, 'cleared', unilaterally, the McS AND all their 'friends' from 'perception' of 'involvement' in Madeleine's er, 'disappearance'', didn't he?

(in a diametrically 'opposed' 'view' to a senior Leicestershire police officer's stated opinion, in a UK court room, that 'there was no 'evidence' to eliminate the McCanns from possible 'involvement' in Madeleine's 'disappearance')

THAT, i believe, WAS his SOLE 'job'.

WHY?

Who knows?

Ultimately DCI Redwood was 'answerable' to MET Comissioner, BHH.

Imo, BHH and McCann's are 'horns on the same goat'

DCI Redwood, "retired" now, after a 3 1/2 years, £11MILLION+, taxpayer 'funded', 'investigation' without a single positive 'result', on a 'full' pension, hasn't he?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 05.03.15 12:45

@jeanmonroe wrote:I believe Redwood was perhaps not in the right job...
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On the 'contrary', imo.

HE, alone, it has to be said, 'cleared' the McCanns AND all their friends from perception of involvement in Madeleine's er, disappearance, didn't he?

THAT, I believe, WAS his SOLE job.

Ultimately DCI Redwood was answerable to MET Comissioner, BHH.
Just to go over the chain of command once more...for Redwood was only the eighth link in the chain...

...when DCI Andy Redwood (8) was appointed, he was responsible to his line manager, Det Chief Supt Hamish Campbell (7), the man who botched the investigation into the killing of Jill Dando...

...and Campbell was responsible tpo Commander Simon Foy (6), the 'Gold' Commander, who was charged with setting the remit...

...but Foy was reponsible to Met Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson (who resignerd in disgrace) - just as DCI Wall now has to answer to those above her and the new Met Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe (5) ...

...the man whose force turned out to support the McCanns' release of balloons in Liverpool on the 100th day after Madeleine wsas reported missing, anmd who recently described the McCanns as 'victims'...

...but back to Sir Paul Stephenson...

...he was given his orders to set up Operation Grange by the Home Secretary, Theresa May (4) ...

...who had persistently refused the McCanns' request for a review, much to Dr Kate McCann's public disgust...

...but she was told what to do by the Prime Minister of the U.K., David Cameron (3) ...

...who was badgered and threatened into ordering his Home Secretary to set up this review...

...by Rebekah Brooks, the Chief Executive Officer of News International (2) ...

...which belongs to the world's most powerful media mogul...

...Papal Knight (along with the former Jimmy Savile O.B.E.), Rupert Murdoch (1).


Is it not as plain as a pikestaff that the notion that Operation Grange is an independent search for the truth - without fear or favour' as the Police Oath has it - one big, cruel and expensive joke?

A hoax, in fact?

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Re: New DCI

Post by jeanmonroe on 05.03.15 12:53

@TB

Just to go over the chain of command once more.
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MET Commissioner(s)......................Paul Stephenson then Bernard Hogan Howe

'Gold' Commander............Simon Foy

Detective Superintendent.........Hamish Campbell

Detective Chief Inspector.....Andrew Redwood,

istbc, as always.

nb: Maybe 'above' MET Commissioners i should 'add', Prime Minister David Cameron and Secretary of State for the Home Office, Theresa May?

Still don't know WHERE to 'put' Murdoch and Brooks! winkwink

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Post by Tony Bennett on 05.03.15 13:06

@jeanmonroe wrote:@TB

Just to go over the chain of command once more.
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MET Commissioner(s)......................Paul Stephenson then Bernard Hogan Howe

'Gold' Commander............Simon Foy

Detective Superintendent.........Hamish Campbell

Detective Chief Inspector.....Andrew Redwood,

istbc, as always.

nb: Maybe 'above' MET Commissioners i should 'add', Prime Minister David Cameron and Home Office Minister Theresa May?

Still don't know WHERE to 'put' Murdoch and Brooks! winkwink
Yes, I think you've about got it, see my post which crossed with yours

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Re: New DCI

Post by jeanmonroe on 05.03.15 13:41

@ TB

"Is it not as plain as a pikestaff that the notion that Operation Grange is an independent search for the truth - without fear or favour' as the Police Oath has it - one big, cruel and expensive joke?"

"A hoax, in fact?"
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Indeed!

Only question might be.........Madeleine's big 'reveal' from her 'cushy UK 'lair', (Scottish 'Spa' hotel?) totally unharmed'......... BEFORE or AFTER General Election?

BEFORE....................Cameron/May 'told you, plebs, it was 'worth' it (cost and investigation) the two doctors that diliberatey and consciously left their 3 kids, alone, in an unlocked holiday apartment, abroad, out of sight, totally putting all 3 children at risk of harm, or 'abduction' by a bungling burglator, have their child back, and it's all due to us, the caring Conservatives, and just to add, Madeleine 'was abducted', you'll recall, under the last Labour government's 'watch'! Never trust Labour to ever find, 'abducted' children. Vote Conservative.

Actually, there'd be NO 'kudos', for the Tories, in Madeleine's 'miraculous' 're-appearance' AFTER the GE, when they are sitting on the opposition 'benches'!

So,

Madeleine's 'back'............ BEFORE the GE!  winkwink

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Re: New DCI

Post by Tony Bennett on 05.03.15 14:11

To quote Rebekeh Brooks, 'they are all in it together':

Brooks & Cameron - horse-riding together in the Cotswolds

Clarence Mitchell, Tony Blair and David Cameron - Mitchell's manipulation skills are on hire to anyone

David Cameron and Rupert Murdoch: "You give me BSkyN, I'll deliver you the General Election result you want"

Senior Met coppers and Rupert Murdoch - do your bit for Murdoch in your job, get a job on a Murdoch newspaper when you retire

Det Chief Supt Hamish Campbell - fix the Jill Dando enquiry, fix the Madeleine McCann investigation

Andy Coulson - employed by Brooks and Wall, then employed by Cameron, then in bed with Brooks (literally).


Attractive DCI Wall just has to deliver a few lines from time to time, dictated to her by those above. She's probably at a meeting with Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe and the BBC Crimweatch Team right now, planning the next production for consumption by the British public

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Re: New DCI

Post by jeanmonroe on 05.03.15 14:23

"Attractive DCI Wall just has to deliver a few lines from time to time, dictated to her by those above. She's probably at a meeting with Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe and the BBC Crimweatch Team right now, planning the next production for consumption by the British public"
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"Objection!'

"Pure supposition, M'Lady'

"The programme's ACTUALLY called BBC Maddiewatch"

"objection upheld"

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Re: New DCI

Post by sar on 05.03.15 14:30

@jeanmonroe wrote:@ TB

"Is it not as plain as a pikestaff that the notion that Operation Grange is an independent search for the truth - without fear or favour' as the Police Oath has it - one big, cruel and expensive joke?"

"A hoax, in fact?"
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Indeed!

Only question might be.........Madeleine's big 'reveal' from her 'cushy UK 'lair', (Scottish 'Spa' hotel?) totally unharmed'......... BEFORE or AFTER General Election?

BEFORE....................Cameron/May 'told you, plebs, it was 'worth' it (cost and investigation) the two doctors that diliberatey and consciously left their 3 kids, alone, in an unlocked holiday apartment, abroad, out of sight, totally putting all 3 children at risk of harm, or 'abduction' by a bungling burglator, have their child back, and it's all due to us, the caring Conservatives, and just to add, Madeleine 'was abducted', you'll recall, under the last Labour government's 'watch'! Never trust Labour to ever find, 'abducted' children. Vote Conservative.

Actually, there'd be NO 'kudos', for the Tories, in Madeleine's 'miraculous' 're-appearance' AFTER the GE, when they are sitting on the opposition 'benches'!

So,

Madeleine's 'back'............ BEFORE the GE!  winkwink
...was thinking it's time for a "major" incident distraction a few weeks from the GE as DC has bottled the debates?  Maybe one of the ones they have been "seeding" in the media over the last few weeks?  Something that conveniently turns the incumbent incompetents into a model of efficiency?  Anyone willing to have a flutter?  Sorry, never been good at odds but all still to play for!

International Terror 10/2  (another attack from a few homegrown jihadie baddies)
CSA Scandal           10/1  (Maybe there's a wobbly tooth who might have been in the news over the last few days?  "He Who Protesteth" etc etc)
Another war           20/1   (Where next?  Lets back Japan v China after a false flag sinking of a ship on the disputed islands, if you don't fancy that you can bet on the Ukraine turning into another Balkan War)
Currency War                  (Euro zone goes into meltdown, everyone starts buying Bitcoin and AK-47's) 
Ebola Pandemic       50/1   etc
Reappearance of  m.100/1  etc

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Post by Tony Bennett on 05.03.15 14:45

@sar wrote:
...was thinking it's time for a "major" incident distraction a few weeks from the GE as DC has bottled the debates?  

International Terror 10/2  (another attack from a few homegrown jihadie baddies)
CSA Scandal           10/1  (Maybe there's a wobbly tooth who might have been in the news over the last few days?  "He Who Protesteth" etc etc)
Another war           20/1   (Where next?  Lets back Japan v China after a false flag sinking of a ship on the disputed islands, if you don't fancy that you can bet on the Ukraine turning into another Balkan War)
Currency War                  (Euro zone goes into meltdown, everyone starts buying Bitcoin and AK-47's) 
Ebola Pandemic       50/1   etc
Reappearance of  m.100/1  etc
An impressive list, sar, but it doesn't appear to be necessary, because we have had a string of announcements like these in the past few months:

* record numbers in work
* unemployment down
* surplus in January...
* ...defiicit going down
* wages rising ahead of inflation
* cost-of-living annual rise practically down to nil...
* ...petrol 25% cheaper than a year ago 
* business confidence high
* pound strong, euro weak...


...no wonder the Conservatives are already an average of 2% ahead in the last four polls:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election

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Post by sar on 05.03.15 14:58

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@sar wrote:
...was thinking it's time for a "major" incident distraction a few weeks from the GE as DC has bottled the debates?  

International Terror 10/2  (another attack from a few homegrown jihadie baddies)
CSA Scandal           10/1  (Maybe there's a wobbly tooth who might have been in the news over the last few days?  "He Who Protesteth" etc etc)
Another war           20/1   (Where next?  Lets back Japan v China after a false flag sinking of a ship on the disputed islands, if you don't fancy that you can bet on the Ukraine turning into another Balkan War)
Currency War                  (Euro zone goes into meltdown, everyone starts buying Bitcoin and AK-47's) 
Ebola Pandemic       50/1   etc
Reappearance of  m.100/1  etc
An impressive list, sar, but it doesn't appear to be necessary, because we have had a string of announcements like these in the past few months:

* record numbers in work
* unemployment down
* surplus in January...
* ...defiicit going down
* wages rising ahead of inflation
* cost-of-living annual rise practically down to nil...
* ...petrol 25% cheaper than a year ago 
* business confidence high
* pound strong, euro weak...


...no wonder the Conservatives are already an average of 2% ahead in the last four polls:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election
thanks for helping me pull focus TB, for a moment there.....   

Yeah, basically because everything is going so good its the conservatives wot won it innit!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 05.03.15 15:21

@TB

An impressive list, sar, but it doesn't appear to be necessary, because we have had a string of announcements like these in the past few months:

* record numbers in work
* unemployment down
* surplus in January...
* ...defiicit going down
* wages rising ahead of inflation
* cost-of-living annual rise practically down to nil...
* ...petrol 25% cheaper than a year ago
* business confidence high
* pound strong, euro weak...
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So THEY 'SAY'!

If we have record numbers in work and unemployment down, WHY has the 'benefits bill' gone UP, remorselessly, through 'the roof', to over £100 BILLION and 'climbing'...........DAILY!

Why does GB have a debt of £1,416 TRILLION?

UP, UP, £200 BILLION! since the Tories 'took over'

Just to add, you might want to start a new thread because this one is about DCI Wall and Operation Grange.

Thanks.

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Re: New DCI

Post by jeanmonroe on 06.03.15 11:18

'memo' to DCI Wall.

"How MANY 'cases/investigations' of 'bungled' burglaries have you, personally, investigated, during your long MET 'career', to date, come across, where the 'burglar' took 'nothing of value' but did 'abduct/take' a child 'of the house' being 'burgled'?

"How many 'cases' of 'bungled' burglaries, do you have personal knowledge of, in the UK, that HAVE resulted in a burglar taking nothing of 'value', but did 'abduct'/take a child, 'of the house' being 'burgled'?

"Are there any official, recorded, (that i could cross reference with?) police 'statistics' of burglars, not taking 'anything of value', but who have 'abducted/taken' a child from the premises, that were 'burgled' (in UK)?

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Post by Doug D on 06.03.15 11:25

"Are there any official, recorded, (that i could cross reference with?) police 'statistics' of burglars, not taking 'anything of value', but who have 'abducted/taken' a child from the premises, that were 'burgled' (in UK)?
 
Why not knock out an FoI request, Jeanmonroe?
 
Oh no, it’s so nonsensical it would just be dismissed as ‘spurious’!

eta.
(It would be nice to have that in writing from the Met though)

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Post by jeanmonroe on 06.03.15 12:19

@Doug D wrote:"Are there any official, recorded, (that i could cross reference with?) police 'statistics' of burglars, not taking 'anything of value', but who have 'abducted/taken' a child from the premises, that were 'burgled' (in UK)?
 
Why not knock out an FoI request, Jeanmonroe?
 
Oh no, it’s so nonsensical it would just be dismissed as ‘spurious’!

eta.
(It would be nice to have that in writing from the Met though)

Doug D:

OG, er, 'monitor', this forum, daily!  winkwink

They 'read' what WE, 'put in print'.

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Post by sar on 07.03.15 8:02

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@sar wrote:
...was thinking it's time for a "major" incident distraction a few weeks from the GE as DC has bottled the debates?  

International Terror 10/2  (another attack from a few homegrown jihadie baddies)
CSA Scandal           10/1  (Maybe there's a wobbly tooth who might have been in the news over the last few days?  "He Who Protesteth" etc etc)
Another war           20/1   (Where next?  Lets back Japan v China after a false flag sinking of a ship on the disputed islands, if you don't fancy that you can bet on the Ukraine turning into another Balkan War)
Currency War                  (Euro zone goes into meltdown, everyone starts buying Bitcoin and AK-47's) 
Ebola Pandemic       50/1   etc
Reappearance of  m.100/1  etc
An impressive list, sar, but it doesn't appear to be necessary, because we have had a string of announcements like these in the past few months:

* record numbers in work
* unemployment down
* surplus in January...
* ...defiicit going down
* wages rising ahead of inflation
* cost-of-living annual rise practically down to nil...
* ...petrol 25% cheaper than a year ago 
* business confidence high
* pound strong, euro weak...


...no wonder the Conservatives are already an average of 2% ahead in the last four polls:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2015_United_Kingdom_general_election
 record numbers in work, smoke and mirrors as concocted by both tories and labour from the start of the benefits system
unemployment down, see above
surplus in january, deficit was supposed to be paid off by the end of this parliament, what happened to that?
wages rising ahead of inflation, if you count dvd's, coffee machines, and DVS sofa's / 2 weeks in Spain in the inflation figures then yes maybe, but if you take the "real" inflation figure for the man woman in the street then no.  Gas / Electric bills are not going up by 1% I can assure you.  NB Why was the black market of drugs and prostitution suddenly included in our economy??
Petrol cheaper than a year ago, great for now, but as the price is being manipulated by opec, then the true price is unknown, causing heart ache for those losing their job in this country and others.
Business confidence high, great if you employ >50 staff?  If your big enough to have working capital by now (if you've survived since 2006, yes, that's when this s**tstorm started, if not before)
Pound Strong / Euro Weak  the Euro should be weak, it was a franco-German construct which we attached ourself to because we had just lost our empire and wanted somewhere know to lord it over.  
(Why have regulators for electrical, gas, engineering been coping with EU harmonisation for 20-30 years when if someone comes from another country in Europe?  Unrelenting waves of regulation that change every few years designed to destroy small businesses and keep the cartels going.  (BT won't go out of business but how many ISP's / Mobile co's have gone while they denuded the landline / mobile market whilst taking advantage of their monopoly position facilitated by the privatisation in the 80's.  NB it seems that only brokerages have benefitted from QE, more money for their mates, made no appreciable difference to us but great if you get a few % points on the £/$ 800bn - 1.2bn (best guess by anyone) in recapitalising our banks. 

And guess what, another 'news' feature in relation to a westminster c s a file  that SKY found, how good of them!!!  Think it was exaro that really found much of what was going on.  MH10 back in the news, is there going to be a big reveal / discovery?  If south african kids can reappear then anyone could! And more good news for the recently formed NCS (and Terry man), web crime bust of 50 or so people??  Did anyone go for the accumulator???  Each day now of the election campaign is being managed by media manipulators and spinners, its just a war where truth is the casualty.

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Post by BlueBag on 07.03.15 8:29

"wages rising ahead of inflation, if you count dvd's, coffee machines, and DVS sofa's / 2 weeks in Spain in the inflation figures then yes maybe, but if you take the "real" inflation figure for the man woman in the street then no.  Gas / Electric bills are not going up by 1% I can assure you."




Yes,, the biggest BS of the lot.


We have been bombarded with "good news" recently.


It makes me sick.


People are being forced to work a full week (thus employed) and still not getting a living wage.


Meanwhile the rich who own the system get richer and the poor only somehow have themselves to blame.

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Re: New DCI

Post by Gaggzy on 07.03.15 16:23

@jeanmonroe wrote:@TB

An impressive list, sar, but it doesn't appear to be necessary, because we have had a string of announcements like these in the past few months:

* record numbers in work
* unemployment down
* surplus in January...
* ...defiicit going down
* wages rising ahead of inflation
* cost-of-living annual rise practically down to nil...
* ...petrol 25% cheaper than a year ago
* business confidence high
* pound strong, euro weak...
--------------------------------------------------------------------

So THEY 'SAY'!

If we have record numbers in work and unemployment down, WHY has the 'benefits bill' gone UP, remorselessly, through 'the roof', to over £100 BILLION and 'climbing'...........DAILY!

Why does GB have a debt of £1,416 TRILLION?

UP, UP, £200 BILLION! since the Tories 'took over'

Just to add, you might want to start a new thread because this one is about DCI Wall and Operation Grange.

Thanks.

A bit off topic here but please forgive me. I just pizzed myself laughing when I read the highlighted quote mentioning TRILLION as it reminded me of a phone call I once made.

About 15 years ago, I used to make regular payments off one of my credit cards by using the telephone banking method. On one particular occasion, I wasn't concentrating properly and thought it was time to enter my debit card number to make the payment.

After entering my 16-digit card number, I heard the automated female voice say the following :

You would like to make a payment of Five Thousand three hundred and twenty seven Trillion, Eight Hundred and twelve Billion, Three Hundred and sixty seven Million, Five Hundred and seventy four Thousand, Five Hundred and twenty three pounds. If this amount is correct ... press 1.

I couldn't resist it .... I really couldn't ..... so I pressed number 1.

Following a five-second pause, the voice said, I'm sorry. There seems to be a problem. Please stay on the line and one of our customer service representatives will speak to you.

Almost instantly, a woman came on sounding all flustered. I calmly explained to her that i had inputted my card number instead of the amount I wanted to pay and I apologised for pressing number 1 as I couldn't resist it.

She did see the funny side of it and I eventually paid about thirty quid instead of the entire national world debt for the last 20 years!    big grin

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Re: New DCI

Post by HelenMeg on 19.03.15 15:22

This is dragging out now..

As far as I can see, we are now waiting for 1) BL inquest results 2) Mc Cann V Amaral damages case  3) update from OG

Just one would be nice to keep us going...

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Re: New DCI

Post by aquila on 19.03.15 15:44

@HelenMeg wrote:This is dragging out now..

As far as I can see, we are now waiting for 1) BL inquest results 2) Mc Cann V Amaral damages case  3) update from OG

Just one would be nice to keep us going...
Jeez, has the Police Federation been drawn in to close down the OG fiasco?

Who wrote/prompted that script for them?

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Re: New DCI

Post by HelenMeg on 19.03.15 21:21

Someone has to stop this farce.

It is unbelievable that it has been allowed to go on for 8 years, let alone cost in excess of £10 Million. There is no way the truth will not 'come out' at some stage so why
pussy foot around.
David Cameron can put a stop to this any time he chooses.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.15 22:37

@HelenMeg wrote:

Someone has to stop this farce.

It is unbelievable that it has been allowed to go on for 8 years, let alone cost in excess of £10 Million. There is no way the truth will not 'come out' at some stage so why pussy foot around.

David Cameron can put a stop to this any time he chooses.

@ HelenMeg and @ All members of CMOMM

Actually David Cameron can't stop this - he started it.

I think the only people who can stop this farce, who can force an investigation into it - is, actually  US.

By 'us', I mean me, you, other members of CMOMM, anyone else who knows, or thinks they know, enough about the case to be able to see that something is seriously, very seriously amiss with Operation Grange.

Lots of posts here will do no good.

But suppose every one of this forum's 4,000 members, tomorrow, e-mailed Dame Ann Owers, demanding action to investigate the conduct of Grange?

The impact would be considerable.

We can send letters to our MPs, the Home Office etc. 

All it takes is one short e-mail to enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk demanding an investigation, and explaining precisely why, in your own words, an investigation is needed.

Here's what 'Get 'em Goncalo' advised in a post only yesterday on the Opertation Grange thread:  

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The e-mail address I gave -  enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk  - is the one to use for anyone who has a legitmate complaint about the actions of any police force or individual police officer. If you, for example, have good reasons for believing that any police officer involved in Operation Grange may have been guilty of misconduct, you can write at any time to that e-mail address, setting out the reasons for your concerns. It may be that your concerns about Grange differ from those expressed by the member of the public who contacted us. Don't let that stop you from sending an e-mail addressed to Dame Anne Owers explaining, in your own words, why you think there may have been misconduct in any aspect of Grange, either in the wording of the remit, or in their conduct over the past four years.

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Re: New DCI

Post by Knitted on 20.03.15 2:57

I agree... Since I am sick of the smell around this case the only way to possibly make any difference is to take responsibility and take action.  Yes, if enough of us put fingers to keyboard who knows what the tipping point might be?  Not wishing to sound too cheesy but "a single letter might just be a drop in the ocean... but what is an ocean but a multitude of drops?"   Tonight I thought about how many keystrokes I had knowingly wasted by keep on badgering 'Universe' to answer my questions....and so the irony is that their 'shilling'(?) has inadvertently inspired me to draft the following:
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(via email to enquiries@ipcc.gsi.gov.uk)
Dame Anne Owers
Chairperson
I.P.C.C.



Complaint:  Metropolitan Police Operation Grange

 

Dear Dame Owers,

I am taking the time to write to you to formally complain against, and raise my long held concerns relating to, the Metropolitan Police Service’s Operation Grange. As you will no doubt know this team is reviewing evidence into the disappearance of Madeleine Beth McCann whilst holidaying with her parents in Praia de Luz, Portugal, in 2007.

My complaint relates to the fact that Operation Grange’s remit of [quote] “to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter.” [unquote], is a biased scope that excluded the consideration of alternative scenarios.  

Having read translations of the original Polícia Judiciária (Portuguese Judicial Police) case files that are now in the public domain it is my strongly held, and informed, belief that a meaningful review into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance has to consider other, non-abduction, scenarios.  Since it does not, it appears that the remit of the review, for some unknown reason, runs counter to the spirit embodied in Part 2 [Criminal Investigations], Section 23 –(1), Paragraph (a) of the Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 (i.e. that in an investigation that “all reasonable lines of enquiry are pursued”). 

You may not be familiar with key details of the case.  Therefore I shall present below a very small subset of facts that support my complaint that Operation Grange's remit of 'an abduction' is too narrow.  These are:




  1. The claim of an abduction appears to have originated from Madeleine’s parents. However, no evidence was, or has subsequently been, found to support an abduction
  2. Details relating to events of that evening, given in the original police statements made by Madeleine’s parents and their party of holidaymakers were changed in later statements.  The changes could be considered as having the appearance of ‘back-fitting’ to align earlier contradictions
  3. Two specialist, highly trained, scent dogs from South Yorkshire Police (whose services had been used internationally) were deployed; one was trained to find Human cadaver odour and the other for Human fluids/blood.  Both had impeccable (international) track records and both ‘alerted’ to their respective scents in the McCann’s apartment and on certain other items owned or used by the parents.  No evidence has been found of any prior fatality in the McCann apartment but strongly suggests that a dead corpse must have been in situ for a c.3hrs for cadaver odour to be emitted.
  4. UK Home Office data shows >60%  of murdered Under 16s were killed by a parent [source: http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publications/re-reference-tables.html?edition=tcm%3A77-328149]. Furthermore, around 20% of children under 5 were found to have been murdered by male family acquaintances. Thus >80% of convictions relating to the murder of a child of Madeleine’s age were of either the child's parents or of a male acquaintance.  Indeed murders by strangers are the exception, not the rule. 
  5. A statement given to Leicestershire Police on the 16th May 2007 by Dr. Katherina Zacharius Gaspar alleges that she witnessed a conversation the previous year between Dr. Gerry McCann and Dr. David Payne, relating to Madeleine, that contained sexually suggestive gestures that she considered to be consistent with acts of paedophilia.   Note: This statement was not passed to the Polícia Judiciária by Leicestershire Police until the 24th October 2007. No explanation for the 5 month delay in forwarding this statement has, to my knowledge, been forthcoming.


The above points are but a small sample of the information that supports any complaint that the narrow ‘abduction’ remit for Operation Grange is prejudicial in that it denied a fair investigation of potential other scenarios and/or suspects involved in a child's disappearance. I am not, of course, suggesting any involvement by Madeleine’s parents, or her parents’ acquaintances. I am simply highlighting the complete inappropriateness of constraining Operation Grange’s scope to reviewing the case as if it was ‘..an abduction…’. I trust, given the above facts, that the IPCC would agree that it would be reasonable to have expected alternative scenarios to be not be excluded from Operation Grange's narrow remit. The fact only 'an abduction' appears to be in scope of the review should be a matter of concern.

I did not wish to raise the complaint directly with the Metropolitan Police Service (as per the instructions on your website) as I note that my complaint would not then be logged with yourselves.  I therefore am hoping that the IPCC will log this complaint themselves and be able to respond:

(i)   On whether the remit of Operation Grange was and/or remains, limited to solely looking at an abduction scenario?
(ii)  And if the answer to (i) is affirmative, then may I request that the IPCC investigate how this prejudicial remit was allowed to happen


I look forward to receiving your response.

Yours faithfully,

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(I'll be emailing it off tomorrow after I've zzZZZ'd and re-read it and made a few tweaks... I'll probably cc my MP in as well for good measure).



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Re: New DCI

Post by BlueBag on 20.03.15 7:41

That, my dear Knitted, is a great letter.

I shall be sending one.

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Re: New DCI

Post by Tony Bennett on 20.03.15 8:02

@BlueBag wrote:That, my dear Knitted, is a great letter.

I shall be sending one.
Campaigning point

After all these letters have been sent, I will ask the IPCC via a Freedom of Information Act request how many letters she has had asking for the IPCC to investigate Operation Grange.

She will have to answer

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Re: New DCI

Post by BlueBag on 20.03.15 9:09

We all need to get behind this one.

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