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Re: SY delay interviews of 11 suspects

Post by Evening_All on 21.11.14 8:18

I suppose SY could always assist the PJ in uncovering the "hellish lair" theory of PI David Edgar fame. Still wouldn't explain the (ssshhh don't mention) CADAVER DOGS. They were referred to on the programme the other night but for some reason were not allowed to be shown. Stark contrast to a couple of years back when panorama showed the footage but described them as DNA dogs. Just a musing thought sequence gone wrong.

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Post by Brian Griffin on 21.11.14 8:43

@sami wrote:But the limited company is still operating.  Why ?  It still seeks financial donations.  It still says there is nothing to suggest Madeleine has been harmed.  Digging, cadaver dogs and "not alive when she left the apartment" suggest otherwise to me.

They are not paying Scotland Yard, they are not paying Portugal.  They cannot legally employ their own investigator in Portugal.  So why are they asking for money ?

What other limited company would be allowed to take money from the public for no apparent reason.  Why has the online store section of the website not been suspended pending the outcome of the investigation ?

I cannot see any reason why it should still be trading.
Even those members of the public who (still) believe that Kate and Gerry are innocent and that Maddie was abducted must have felt very uneasy by the way the McCanns used money people were kind enough to donate. The mortgage thing, for one, must have made a few people sit up and say, 'Hang on a sec...' but still the Fund makes money. There is something I find very unsavoury about the Mcs attitude towards money. I know it's a fake, but that picture of them beaming and counting that pile of money gets me every time. It wouldn't work so well, if there were not some truth in it!

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Post by Brian Griffin on 21.11.14 8:47

@Portia wrote:
@Evening_All wrote:It's a bit tiresome hearing about this "bungled break in". The doors were open according to witnesses present. The open window was initiated from the inside according to forensic evidence. Nothing of value was taken.
Burglar waits outside the apartment he has been watching for a week enters through the front door or patio door in the the 5 minute clunk timespace after Gerry leaves , Madeleine wakes up he punches and kills her deciding there and then where to dispose of her body but for good measure he puts on his gloves and opens the bedroom window and shutters just to fool the police taking from his personal drug supply enough to sedate the other 2 children and dosing them up before calmly walking up the road with a bundle resembling a dead child (a common occurance in PDL I am told) . What would an insurance company have to say about this if a claim was made?

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Post by NickE on 21.11.14 9:58

Snipped from The Portugal News.

The postponement is not expected to be too lengthy, with sources saying that once clarity had been received from Portimão Public Prosecutor Inês Sequeira regarding the legalities flagged by Portuguese police, interviews would be re-scheduled “within ten to 15 days”.

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Post by stillsloppingout on 21.11.14 12:02

@NickE wrote:Snipped from The Portugal News.

The postponement is not expected to be too lengthy, with sources saying that once clarity had been received from Portimão Public Prosecutor Inês Sequeira regarding the legalities flagged by Portuguese police, interviews would be re-scheduled “within ten to 15 days”.


That sounds a lot better . because get to Dec then it will be xmas holidays . and more delays .

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Post by margaret on 21.11.14 14:21

@stillsloppingout wrote:
@NickE wrote:Snipped from The Portugal News.

The postponement is not expected to be too lengthy, with sources saying that once clarity had been received from Portimão Public Prosecutor Inês Sequeira regarding the legalities flagged by Portuguese police, interviews would be re-scheduled “within ten to 15 days”.


That sounds a lot better . because get to Dec then it will be xmas holidays . and more delays .

Ah but my money's on January anyway when we hear the court ruling for Snr.Amaral. I wonder if the met-PJ will pounce on K&G then, no need for fancy EAW's.

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Post by Brian Griffin on 21.11.14 20:10

I have a feeling one of the reasons SY are keeping a police presence close to the Portuguese is because they fear the Portuguese might try and arrest the McCanns on their soil. Just a theory.

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Post by mysterion on 21.11.14 20:19

I don`t think so. SY has no jurisdiction in Portugal.

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Post by Guest on 21.11.14 20:19

Why would SY fear the Portuguese police arresting the McCanns?

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Post by Brian Griffin on 22.11.14 2:04

@mysterion wrote:I don`t think so. SY has no jurisdiction in Portugal.
No, but they can get in the way, and react immediately by calling the UK government to intervene, scupper and dictate...it's not like that hasn't worked before, is it?

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Post by Brian Griffin on 22.11.14 2:14

Ladyinred wrote:Why would SY fear the Portuguese police arresting the McCanns?
Quite right. They wouldn't. They have been bullied and tamed and know their place.

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Post by Guest on 22.11.14 10:00

@Brian Griffin wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Why would SY fear the Portuguese police arresting the McCanns?
Quite right. They wouldn't. They have been bullied and tamed and know their place.

In my opinion.

Are you suggesting OG don't want the Mcs arrested, BG?  If they were arrested OG couldn't prevent it, that would be their lawyers call.

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Post by Brian Griffin on 22.11.14 10:14

Ladyinred wrote:
@Brian Griffin wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Why would SY fear the Portuguese police arresting the McCanns?
Quite right. They wouldn't. They have been bullied and tamed and know their place.

In my opinion.

Are you suggesting OG don't want the Mcs arrested, BG?  If they were arrested OG couldn't prevent it, that would be their lawyers call.
Absolutely. Well, not officially at any rate. In case you hadn't noticed, OG is going out of its way to point the finger at anyone except the McCanns when there is so much evidence at least to question them and their cronies. They are totally protected and they know it. OG couldn't prevent an arrest by the Portuguese per se, but they could get in the way, mention 'international incidents' and get Dave on the blower to the Portuguese within minutes to 'negotiate' before the thing hit the media. Are you unaware of the interference by the British authorities, including the PM, at the time of the initial investigation? Why do you think it got closed down?

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Post by Guest on 22.11.14 10:18

@Brian Griffin wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:
@Brian Griffin wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Why would SY fear the Portuguese police arresting the McCanns?
Quite right. They wouldn't. They have been bullied and tamed and know their place.

In my opinion.

Are you suggesting OG don't want the Mcs arrested, BG?  If they were arrested OG couldn't prevent it, that would be their lawyers call.
Absolutely. Well, not officially at any rate. In case you hadn't noticed, OG is going out of its way to point the finger at anyone except the McCanns when there is so much evidence at least to question them and their cronies. They are totally protected and they know it. OG couldn't prevent an arrest by the Portuguese per se, but they could get in the way, mention 'international incidents' and get Dave on the blower to the Portuguese within minutes to 'negotiate' before the thing hit the media. Are you unaware of the interference by the British authorities, including the PM, at the time of the initial investigation? Why do you think it got closed down?

In my opinion.
Was this chap in charge at the time,didn't he have a pow wow at a conference with Brown at the time.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/22/us-portugal-corruption-socrates-idUSKCN0J606A20141122?feedType=RSS


Reuters) - Portuguese police have arrested former Socialist prime minister Jose Socrates and three other people in an investigation of suspected tax fraud, corruption and money-laundering, the Prosecutor General's office said on Saturday.

It said in a statement that Socrates, who was detained on Friday, would be brought before a criminal judge for questioning on Saturday regarding an investigation of suspicious banking operations and money transfers.

Portugal's official news agency Lusa said police arrested Socrates at Lisbon airport as he arrived from abroad.

Socrates resigned as prime minister in the middle of his second four-year term in 2011 as an escalating debt crisis forced him to request an international bailout that imposed painful austerity on Portugal.

A snap election that year brought to power the current center-right ruling coalition, which introduced the unpopular austerity measures.

After stepping down, Socrates left for Paris, where he attended a university course. He returned in 2013 to become a regular commentator on RTP state television.

The center-left Socialist party leads in opinion polls ahead of next year's general election.

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Post by Guest on 22.11.14 10:21

Thanks for your reply, BG.  £10million+ for a cover-up, very depressing.

Poor Madeleine.

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Post by stillsloppingout on 22.11.14 14:46

I feel for the alleged suspects they wish to question , the stress of which this impending questioning [with it there names being released to the worlds media ,to be then manipulated by team McCann etc for there own ends , ] We could have another sad situation on our hands .

Looking at the screen header at the top of the page the grubby image of one person in particular strikes me .

One person SY should be questioning is Martin Brunt . if you are reading this , when are you going to put on the record all you know , maybe enlighten us if you have been ordered to be censored in your reporting .

Hiding away waiting to quietly re appear on our screens , will not wash . you have a duty to speak the truth and gain some redemption . Your silence is telling .

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Post by PeterMac on 22.11.14 15:13

Interesting if someone iconoclastic like Sonia P doorstepped Brunt
What would he do ? He would have the choice of explaining a a serious and professional manner, keeping his temper and being moderate and respectful,
perhaps putting off what he was doing and inviting her in for tea, as the last lamented Brenda did.
OR
He could stomp off and throw a paddy.
That would be an interesting confrontation.

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Post by Doug D on 23.11.14 2:02

Not even from a source!

Are the Mirror helping out Redwood, interrogating people outside of the ILOR’s?

I suppose it would save a lot of trouble and abolish the need to worry about ‘witness’ or ‘arguido’ status!
 
Maddie McCann investigators quiz British expat for second time


Nov 23, 2014 00:01
By David Collins

Gardener who worked in Praia da Luz, Portugal, when the youngster went missing denies ever seeing her. A British gardener quizzed for the second time over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal has said: “I never saw her.”

The expat, who worked at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz where Madeleine went missing, was grilled on his whereabouts on the night she vanished aged three in May 2007.

But the man, who still lives on the Algarve, insists: “I wasn’t there. I was in a bar somewhere else.”

He denied giving a swab for DNA in the original probe – though Portuguese police papers claim he did.

A British woman is also believed to have been questioned in Operation Grange, the fresh inquiry ordered by David Cameron.
Four Portuguese men and a Central or Eastern European woman are also believed to be involved in the new probe.
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-investigators-quiz-british-4678191

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Post by PeterMac on 23.11.14 9:14

Exactly.
GWJ only worked at the ocean Club on Wednesdays, and did not do the pool area.
ON Thursday evening he was in the bar in Espiche, where he is well known, and therefore alibied.
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Post by aiyoyo on 26.11.14 13:45

Maybe SY is interested to know from the gardener if he is acquainted/friend with Robert Murat?
 Just a thought.

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Post by Brian Griffin on 26.11.14 14:04

@PeterMac wrote:Interesting if someone iconoclastic like Sonia P doorstepped Brunt
What would he do ?  He would have the choice of explaining a a serious and professional manner, keeping his temper and being moderate and respectful,
perhaps putting off what he was doing and inviting her in for tea, as the last lamented Brenda did.
OR
He could stomp off and throw a paddy.
That would be an interesting confrontation.
Betcha he'd 'no comment' her and the police would turn up before she'd made it back to her car!
Remember, McCannery is a game with two very different sets of rules.
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Post by aiyoyo on 26.11.14 19:09

@Brian Griffin wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:Interesting if someone iconoclastic like Sonia P doorstepped Brunt
What would he do ?  He would have the choice of explaining a a serious and professional manner, keeping his temper and being moderate and respectful,
perhaps putting off what he was doing and inviting her in for tea, as the last lamented Brenda did.
OR
He could stomp off and throw a paddy.
That would be an interesting confrontation.
Betcha he'd 'no comment' her and the police would turn up before she'd made it back to her car!
Remember, McCannery is a game with two very different sets of rules.
In my opinion.

If MB were stupid enough to react in the manner as you believed, that would suit Sonia just fine.  
She could jump at the chance to turn it around - to say to the Police that in that case they would have to arrest MB first since she was only copying what he did to BL.
MB can't say it is one rule for him and another rule for Sonia.  That won't wash with the Police, or the law for that matter.

If Bunty has the audacity to call the Police should he be doorstepped, he's courting unwanted publicity for himself IMO.

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Post by NickE on 27.11.14 12:36

Snipped from Blacksmith.
"...the good news is that this work is well under way. As the Mirror has been telling us, the number of close independent witnesses being questioned is already considerable; according to rumour John Hill, who backed the pair’s claims to the hilt, his wife  and Sylvia Batista, perhaps the most important independent witnesses to the break-in and its aftermath, are next in line and will be questioned in December.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.11.14 16:04

John Hill.

The very chap who 'dispelled' the forced window, broken, smashed, jemmied shutter, 'story' within minutes of 'inspection'.

The 'story' that was, by the McCanns, given to relatives, friends, in UK, within hours, to be repeated, by rote, to ALL UK media!

And then, rapidly, within hours of 'speaking' with McCanns says, "John Hill: The parents were regularly checking, errm... through the, errr... the french windows of their apartment, errm... and between, errm... errr... ten... ten o'clock and ten fifteen, errm... the alarm was raised that Maddie was missing from that room."

SIX 'err, erms'!

The John Hill who, luckily, was with super observant MO, (he only missed seeing Madeleine, the once, after all!) when he went with him at 1 pm to JW's apartment to tip him the wink hear MO say they didn't need JW's 'eyes' to help search for an 'abducted' child

THAT John Hill? winkwink

Who, i have to add, was NOT 'got at'! winkwink

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Post by jeanmonroe on 27.11.14 17:37

DCI Mahogany: "So John, was the shutter of the McCann's apartment, G5A, smashed, jemmied, broken in to, and the window forced, as the McCanns said?"

JH: "No sir, absolutely not, not a mark on either of them, except for only Kate McCann's fingerprint, on the window"

DCI M: "Hmmm, i wonder why the McCanns told their friends and families, straight away, by phonecalls, back in the UK, why they were then? Weird innit?"

JH: "You are the experienced, 30 year career, hard nosed, elite, Metropolitan police detective, you figure out why they lied to their families and friends, that night and the next day, back in the UK, There's a plethora of interviews, statements, videos, all on record, of what their families and friends, in the UK, were told had happened at their apartment"

DCI M: "What? What interviews, statements? My full time team, with over three years investigation, of 38 police staff haven't seen any of them"

JH: "They are all out there and there's also the PJ's released files"

DCI M: "Hmmmm, interesting"

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