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BEN HODDER - Another top Essex Police Officer charged with paedophilia offences - and his e-mail to me on 6 December 2011

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Re: BEN HODDER - Another top Essex Police Officer charged with paedophilia offences - and his e-mail to me on 6 December 2011

Post by Tony Bennett on 16.03.15 22:08

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@fz2 wrote:Quote from T. Bennett;
Didn't one Sergei Malinka also destroy his hard drive before the police got to it? - that's Malinka, friend of Robert Murat, who had encrypted material on his computer but had 'no idea' how it got there (!)
Please explain the above, I am at a loss as to how anyone could explain encrypted material if the hard drive had been destroyed.
You have misunderstood what I wrote.

Sergei Malinka was the man who destroyed his hard drive.

Robert Murat was the man who had encrypted material on his computer.

Two different people
More about Robert Murat - this time an article from David brown in The Times (so NOT the Sun) where he wrote this:

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Portuguese police still have only one official suspect, [Robert Murat]. His house is less than 100 metres from where Madeleine was snatched and he worked as an official police translator in the investigation into her abduction.

The police source said that detectives had studied computers taken from the villa that Mr Murat, 33, shares with his mother had found evidence of links to websites featuring paedophile pornography and bestiality.

However, there was no material linking him to Madeleine’s abduction and detectives have been unable to gather enough evidence to arrest him. The source said that Mr Murat has “a very interesting and relevant sexual history.”

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Re: BEN HODDER - Another top Essex Police Officer charged with paedophilia offences - and his e-mail to me on 6 December 2011

Post by justathought on 16.03.15 23:58

Mr Bennett
You seem to be trying to make a point, using references to a newspaper article.
Be it The Times or The Sun where the statements were made originally. They are worthless and have no value to the investigation, like so much that has been written and alleged previously. .

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Re: BEN HODDER - Another top Essex Police Officer charged with paedophilia offences - and his e-mail to me on 6 December 2011

Post by Tony Bennett on 17.03.15 7:41

@justathought wrote:Mr Bennett
You seem to be trying to make a point, using references to a newspaper article.
Be it The Times or The Sun where the statements were made originally. They are worthless and have no value to the investigation, like so much that has been written and alleged previously. 
It's a very poor evidential principle to say (as some do), 'everything written in a newspaper is worthless, we must go by what is in the PJ Files'.

There might be a witness sttaement in the files that is full of lies (let's take Jane Tanner's statements), whilst a newspaper article may reveal very important things (like Mark Hollingsworth's article in the Evening Standard, August 2009, which inter alia blew the lid off the activities of Kevin Halligen - and told us about how Brian Kennedy's men had intimidated material witnesses into silence).   

But, hey, if you want information about Robert Murat's sexual proclivities from the PJ files and not a newspaper article, let's try this one, from a family friend who knew Murat well:

[reproduced from pamalam's PJFiles site with thanks to her]

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05-Processo V: Pages from 1286 to 1288 (3 pages)
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Processos, Vol V
Pages 1286 to 1288
Witness Statement of Carlos Manuel Mateus Costa
Date: 2007.05.15.
Hour: 16H15
Location: DIC Portimao
Profession: Businessman
That he comes to the process as a witness and states:
- At seeing today and yesterday's notices in the media, he has decided to give the following statement.
- States that he has know Robert Murat for about 25 years. That he worked with him at "Jacinto & Murat" from 1982 to 1984. This firm was owned by Robert's father who has since passed away. At this time, Robert was eight years old. Immediately one noticed that Robert had a strange personality, staying away from people, and not wanting to engage. He had somewhat of a violent attitude. He remembers an episode where Robert, on the veranda on the first floor of the firm, threw vases from that exterior without checking to see if anyone was underneath him.
- At this time, the witness lived in Vila do Bispo. He was the neighbour of a British couple, P.L. and P.L. who are now deceased. This couple had a daughter whose name was L******, who was 17 years old. They were friends of Robert's mother, JAN MURAT. She was always with her son and they would often go to the home next to the deponent's in that same village. At this point Robert was 12 years old.
- L******, the neighbour already mentioned, told him that Robert had tried to have sexual relations with her mother's cat. The animal responded by scratching him on various parts of his body. These injuries were seen by the by the deponent given that he [Robert] had visited the Castelejo beach in Vila do Bispo on various occasions. On one of these occasions, he saw Robert scratching at excoriations. He was told by L****** that Robert had killed the cat out of spite. He also states that he witnessed a macabre episode perpetrated by Robert. He saw him once again trying to have relations, this time with the family dog, who ended up being forced into the house, situated in Almadena, Eiras Velhas.
- Beside this, he states that when he went to the beach with Robert, he [Robert] would stay away from the rest of the group (about 15/20 metres) and not say a word to anyone the whole day.
- He also adds that a cousin of Robert, of British nationality, whose name he does not know, and who lives in his house, has suffered an assault by Robert. For this reason, she left the home. These acts were hidden by Robert's mother, who protected him and who never punished him. At this point, Robert was 16 years old.
- He would like to add that according to what he knows about Robert, he was not surprised that he was described as a disturbed person who could very easily turn violent. He is also someone with a sadistic and deviant sexual personality, and who also is misanthropic. This is based on contact with him for 15 years.
- He also states that it is his opinion that Robert could have committed a crime of this nature—abduction of a child. That he does not have the capacity of getting involved in a paedophile ring. If he did abduct this child, then the witness believes she may be dead. He concludes this from Robert's violent and deviant personality. He adds still that he also was violent with his mother when he was reprimanded and would react by kicking her.
- He asserts that Robert did receive psychiatric treatment whilst in the U.K.
- He has no other elements to offer the investigation.
- And nothing more was said, finds it in conformity, ratifies and signs.

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