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Post by Jauna Loca on 22.08.14 10:19

The McCann's evolving tale always seems tailored to cover every eventuality. People were aghast that 3 toddlers were left alone for an hour between checks, so presto, in the next version the waiting time was whittled down to 30 mins, then 15 (Then that denied by by G on TV interview). The idea of the doors being locked thus denying the kids an escape in case of fire caused consternation, so it was changed to unlocked door.
One of the earliest motifs in the narrative has been "The Couple" and "The Yacht". On May 3rd it was all paedo to the media, but this was never mentioned to the PJ officers, according to Amaral's book. In fact, I don't think on the night in question the A word was mentioned to the officials, only in the enfolding narrative. By the morning of the 4th, Kate can state with clarity to witnesses and media (but not I believe formally to PJ) that "a couple" has taken her child. Some time later a british bar owner in Lagos has a couple prowling with a child in the early hours of May 4th. Again, while this "fact" was widely reported in the media, I can find no record of this man's formal statement to Police. Kate makes a big thing in her book of a fancy yacht in Lagos- in fact, she has photographs of it taken the very day (or day before) Madeleine's disappearance.
Does this strike anyone else as a bit weird? What "couple with a yacht" are they trying to draw into their Drama? Was somebody on a yacht in Lagos in a position to help them politically or financially, but needed a bit of persuasion perhaps because they were not an official "couple"? Or was the yacht owner already slightly compromised due to circulating rumours, perhaps unfounded, about his/her pecadillos? Nothing put in place by Team McCann is an accident- it is to divert questioning or fill a hole. So what are they fishing for with the inclusion of the Yacht in the narrative? And who's did they reel in? All IMO of course!

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Re: Fishing with a yacht

Post by HelenMeg on 22.08.14 10:50

Agree - nothing  alluded to without a reason !
Haven't really paid much attention to this before but certainly sounds interesting and would have been mentioned for a reason - to explain something in a pre-emptive manner. Maybe it was just thrown in to
provide more red herrings and tangents for people to discuss.
Do we have any articles on this?
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Post by PeterMac on 22.08.14 10:57

We did the yacht a long time ago, on its way to Barcelona, and showed that it would have to have travelled at 75 knots for three days, or something like that.
The whole issue then went very quiet, until Edgar and Mitchell invented Beckham woman, which was briefly in the press until Edgar had to admit that his crack team had made no enquiries at all
but one supposes had submitted large expenses claims.
That too went quiet.

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Who's this...?

Post by missbeetle on 05.10.14 2:50

I found this article online - and I think it's the first I've heard of this wannabe father :


As reported by This is London, a UK man whose family called the police after thinking he had something to do with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was never thoroughly investigated.

The expatriate suspect, who was residing in the Algarve when the child disappeared, was deemed a suspect by his own brother. However, detectives failed to eliminate him from the police inquiry.

Marking the fifth anniversary of the child’s disappearance, the attorney of McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry, expressed her hopes that the lead will be looked into by Scotland Yard, who launched a reassessment of the case.

The British suspect, who is named in detective files but for legal reasons cannot be identified, was supposedly desperate to have children, but he and his partner at the time were not able to conceive.

The suspect’s brother informed UK officers that the suspect had told him as well as other family members that if he was unable to have a child, then he would abduct one. The tip was allegedly passed on to Portuguese officials.

However, the McCanns’ attorney Isabel Duarte stated that he was never investigated “properly” or eliminated from the police inquiry. The male suspect — who was living in Espiche near where Madeleine disappeared on May 3, 2007 — owned a boat near Lagos in the marina.
- See more at: http://www.expatsblog.com/news/0405122799/mccann-suspect-never-fully-investigated#sthash.cviycDdy.dpuf

(snipped article dated 4th May, no year given)


It rang no bells for me - especially the UK family dobbing him in...

Any ideas who this might be?

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Post by Jauna Loca on 05.10.14 11:35

Never heard of this either. The article mentions marking the 5th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance so that would make it 2012.
Must have a look and see what else was happening around then...

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Post by j.rob on 05.10.14 13:59

The sea, yachts, boats, sailing, water sports, beaches and water/bathing all seem to crop up in this case quite a bit.

Plus, perhaps, mystery or suspicious couples.

Kate: "They have taken her." Social worker Yvette Martin finding it strange that Kate told her that 'a couple'' had taken her child.

There is Rusell and Matt's sailing expedition where Matt falls into the sea and Russell has to rescue him, on Thursday afternoon on 3rd May, I do believe. (So I guess this would mean Matt's clothes got wet, as I don't think  the weather was warm enough to wear just swim gear) :

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id221.html

Then we have barrister Michael Shrimpton who appears to suggest that Madeleine's kidnap had something to do with a couple on a Dutch-registered motor yacht on Thursday afternoon. And he suggests that Sergey Malinka was in contact with them that day:

http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/first-boats-out-of-port-on-morning-of.html

And then there are the sightings at the marina at Lagos. One was by a British ex-pat who claims he saw a suspicious couple carrying Madeleine 7/8 hours she was reported missing at Lagos marina. And there is the friend of Kate's uncle and aunt who travels over to Portugal as she had a strong 'vision' of a man on a boat in the marina at Lagos. Kate and the friend visit the marina and identify the boat in the vision as 'Shearwater' but the man who is on it and owns it was not the man in the friend's 'vision'. But the report says that Kate takes very seriously the suggestion that her daughter was abducted by sea. Kate and the friend take photographs of the boat.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id399.html

There have been reports that Sergey Malinka worked for a company called Corlett Lines. Which owned a yacht called Naomi Corlett, which left Portomao in the early hours of 3rd May 2007.  No idea as to the veracity of these reports or their relevance to the case. The thread linked below also suggests that Sergey Malinka's mother worked as a cleaner for a company called Blue Ocean Company and one of the apartments she cleaned was above that occupied by the McCanns (could this be Mrs Fenn's apartment?)

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1917.0

Rogatory of Sergey Malinka and his mother. (Including a statement from a witness who claims that her boyfriend spotted paedophile material on Sergey's computer while staying at Sergey's  home. Sergey said it was a client's and he would denounce him.)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERGEY-MALINKA.htm

Then we have the suspicious Polish couple taking photographs of children on the beach on 29th April. A couple who are later captured on cctv at a beach bar in Burgau, owned, I do believe, by a relative of Robert Murats! No mention at all of this incident in Kate's book, as far as I can tell.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NUNO_LOURENCO.htm

Then we have the McCann's trip to Sagres on 30th April, widely reported in the press. Yet not one word of this from Kate's book, or, I do believe, her diary. Kate does not write about their activities that Monday apart from to record that the cleaner ('a middle-aged Portuguese lady') came on Monday (and Wednesday) to clean the apartment. 

And that during that evening (Monday 30th April) Kate made her 'first foray to Baptista' with Jane. (Baptista seems to be quite a hub of activity - it was used, perhaps somewhat inexplicably as it is a supermarket - or does it have a cafe? - as a meeting place - among other places - between Sergey, Murat (and Michaela) when they worked on Murat's website - see rogatory above - with meetings since the summer of 2006. And a meeting at Baptista between the three of them at 10am on Monday 30th April 2007. What a coincidence, GM was at Baptista 24 hours earlier on Sunday to 'get bits and pieces' for lunch , according to Kate's book, while Kate was there on Monday evening with Jane to 'stock up on a few essentials' as the next day was a public holiday!)

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t1581-the-mccanns-family-trip-to-sagres-30th-april


Any dots to be joined up here? Or just more of those strange coincidences which appear to abound in this case.

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Post by j.rob on 05.10.14 16:49

So, allegedly, we have:

Martin Frank Corlett owns yacht Naomi Campbell.

His daughter Ms de Jesus works as a press correspondent and translator for Sky News.

(How funny, another de Jesus popping up in this case - there was also a Nuno Manuel Lourenco de Jesus who reported the sighting of the suspicious-looking Polish couple taking photographs of children on the beach in Sagres. Later recorded on cctv at a beach bar in Burgau owned by relatives of Robert Murat.)

In a letter reproduced on the linked thread, someone called Steve Tezz claims he wrote to Mr Corlett asking for a job.

 Mr Corlett's daughter is the 'press correspondence and translator for Sky News, and also is the mother of Martin Corlett's  grand-daughte,r Naomi Corlett.

If the letter in the link below is to be believed, according to Mr Corlett: "At the time of the unfortunate mystery (as we who are conversant with the case refer to it) the R/S. Naomi Corlett had been in Africa for two years, and was at the very time of the "disappearance" the ship was at the use of the President of The Gambia and an American diving syndicate."


Any association between his boat and Madeleine's disappearance is "ridiculous". 


Steve Tezza claims he went to 'extreme lengths' to prove that the (Michael Shrimpton Report) document was a fake (??) going undercover and posing as someone interested in working on an expedition on the Naomi Corlett ship. Mr Corlett apparently offers him a job on board the ship (as well a)s offering to create a position as' project manager for expeditions carrying out projects in marine biology', among other things for any of Steve Tezza's colleagues who might be interested! How very generous of him! Especially as he claims it costs £2,000 a day to operate the ship, according to the correspondence below.


http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.ch/2009/06/fate-of-madeleine-document-removed.html


http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.it/2010/11/is-gaynor-de-jesus-related-to-owner-of.html


And, according to some, Sergey Malinka was employed as trip organizer for Corlett Lines who owns the Naomi Corlett. Organizing expeditions to remote islands of the coast of Africa. 


http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=386.1330;wa

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,386.1335.html

http://the-elite-and-child-abduction.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/did-sergey-malika-took-pictures-of.html

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Post by j.rob on 05.10.14 22:16

@Jauna Loca wrote:The McCann's evolving tale always seems tailored to cover every eventuality. People were aghast that 3 toddlers were left alone for an hour between checks, so presto, in the next version the waiting time was whittled down to 30 mins, then 15 (Then that denied by by G on TV interview). The idea of the doors being locked thus denying the kids an escape in case of fire caused consternation, so it was changed to unlocked door.
One of the earliest motifs in the narrative has been "The Couple" and "The Yacht". On May 3rd it was all paedo to the media, but this was never mentioned to the PJ officers, according to Amaral's book. In fact, I don't think on the night in question the A word was mentioned to the officials, only in the enfolding narrative. By the morning of the 4th, Kate can state with clarity to witnesses and media (but not I believe formally to PJ) that "a couple" has taken her child. Some time later a british bar owner in Lagos has a couple prowling with a child in the early hours of May 4th. Again, while this "fact" was widely reported in the media, I can find no record of this man's formal statement to Police. Kate makes a big thing in her book of a fancy yacht in Lagos- in fact, she has photographs of it taken the very day (or day before) Madeleine's disappearance.
Does this strike anyone else as a bit weird? What "couple with a yacht" are they trying to draw into their Drama? Was somebody on a yacht in Lagos in a position to help them politically or financially, but needed a bit of persuasion perhaps because they were not an official "couple"? Or was the yacht owner already slightly compromised due to circulating rumours, perhaps unfounded, about his/her pecadillos? Nothing put in place by Team McCann is an accident- it is to divert questioning or fill a hole. So what are they fishing for with the inclusion of the Yacht in the narrative? And who's did they reel in? All IMO of course!
Trying to address certain points from your post (highlighted in bold above):

In Kate's book, on page 60, she describes how on Wednesday evening after dinner they went to the enclosed bar area for a liqueur. And as a result went back to their apartments later than normal. Which meant that the check between their last check of the children and their return was longer, closer to forty-five minutes. 

Kate in her book introduces the subject of paedophilia on page 64 with an alleged conversation with a father who is a fellow guest at the hotel - allegedly video-recording his 3 year old daughter playing tennis on Thursday morning. There are conflicting/peculiar versions of this story from the rogatory statements of Russell O'Brien and Matt Oldfield. What is odd is that the conversation took place at all, imo, and was recounted by Kate, Russell and Matt (but no account of this from the fellow holiday maker that I am aware of).

The couple - Kate "they have taken her," as reported. Social worker records that she is surprised that Kate tells her that 'a couple' have taken her child. 

The yacht - it is on record (in the PJ files) that Kate visited Lagos marina with a friend of a friend of her uncle and aunt who had a vision of a man on a yacht in Lagos marina. Photographs were taken of the yacht with the male owner on it. But the man did not match 'the vision of the man' as seen by the friend of the friend of the uncle and aunt (ahem..... eek). Evidence of this visit is in the PJ files.

British bar owner in Lagos 'sighting': is this the 'sighting' in the PJ files where a man sees a  suspicious couple carrying a child near Lagos marina 7/8 hours after Madeleine is reported to have 'disappeared'?

Kate makes a big thing of a fancy yacht in her book: As far as I can tell from my copy of the book there is no mention of a fancy yacht in the marina. There is definitely a record in the PJ files of photographs being taken of a yacht called 'Shearwater' owned by a Canadian. But I am not sure when the photos were taken. Dr Roberts analysis of this episode in the PJ files is quite revealing. 

In terms of a 'couple in a yacht' : 'Shearwater' - unlikely as identified by Kate herself. However 'couple on a yacht' also brings to mind the allegations of the barrister Michael Shrimpton who links a yacht called Naomi Corlett owned by  a couple (who had been in contact with Sergey Malinka on the day of her disappearance, allegedly) with the disappearance of Madeleine. Perhaps they are the 'mystery couple'?

Talking of certain 'pecadillos', there are, imo, an abundance of red flags that there is a particular sexual deviance that may relate to this case. The suggestion that paedophilia might be connected to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been suggested by Madeleine's parents and several of their friends. And there have been concerned raised by independent witnesses about at least one of the McCann's friends.

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Post by j.rob on 07.10.14 19:33

There are so many apparent links or at least strange coincidences in this case. No idea as to the accuracy of some of the links but it certainly all is very intriguing and it would seem that a great many 'players' in this drama appear to be connected by three degrees of separation, at the very least!

Gaynor (Corlett) de Jesus. Sky TV translator locally at around the time of the disappearance of Madeleine. Filed reports and gave interviews on the case, I do believe. Knew Robert Murat - who also acted as a police interpreter in the McCann case - very well as they went to school together. Both of them appear to know the police well, according to what she says in the Sky News story below. 

http://news.sky.com/story/513455/he-was-normal-he-was-calm

http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Gaynor%20Corlett%20de%20Jesus

Martin Frank Corlett. President of the Corlett group. (Lives near Luz?) According to this web-page: "a compendium of companies and associated specialist companies categorised into divisions; with a whole spectrum of involvements, operations and activities in a variety of industries, government agendas and non government organisations (NGOs)."


Father of Gaynor (Corlett) de Jesus?


And owner of the RV Naomi Corlett - named, if the email/letter shown on the whistler blog above is accurate, after his grand-daughter? And who it appears claims that any association between him/his boat and the disappearance of Madeleine is ridiculous. An interesting piece of correspondence, imo. If it is genuinely from Mr Corlett. 

http://corlettgroup.com/

http://www.corlettgroup.com/corlettlines.php

RV Naomi Corlett. Named as a ship that Madeleine was placed on on 18th May 2007 in this report. (Is this from the barrister Shrimpton?)

http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.co.uk/2009/06/fate-of-madeleine-contin2.html


Sergey Malinka - IT expert - had connections with/had worked for Corlett Lines? Don't know if this is corect. Several sites and forum have posters who have suggested this.

Sergey Malinka and Robert Murat knew each other as Sergey started working on a website for a property firm for Robert in the Summer of 2006, They would either meet at Robert's house or in Baptista supermarket in Luz. Segey also did some IT work for Robert's mother, Jennifer.

Sergey Malinka's mother Svetlana was a cleaner at Ocean Club resort and was responsible for cleaning the apartment above the one which the McCanns occupied. (I wonder if this was Mrs Fenn's apartment? And which days Svetlana cleaned at OC?)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERGEY-MALINKA.htm#p7p1843

Nuno Lourenco de Jesus. A Portuguese national but moved to Germany 14 years ago. Is on holiday in Sagres with his family and staying with his mother (who lives there I presume.) He reports to police a sighting of a suspicious couple taking photographs of his four year old girl (who happens to look like Madeleine) on a beach in Sagres on 29th April. And the couple were captured on cctv at a beach bar owned by a relative of Robert Murat's, I do believe. 

Just wondering whether Nuno Lourenco de Jesus and Gaynor (Corlett) de Jesus are related in any way? Which could mean that Nuno de Jesus also knows Robert Murat. Even if not related, he could still know Robert Murat of course, as Nuno grew up locally it would seem and his mother lives in Sagres.  Ah, I see another poster has asked this question on the thread below. Which has more on the Sagres sighting and the Burgau apartment where the Polish couple stayed and where traces of DNA with possible matches to Jane Tanner and Robert Murat were found. 

I don't know, this all seems to be leading me into a slightly different direction in terms of what may have happened that week and why. There seem to be layers upon layers here.

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2793p290-what-was-so-special-about-burgau?highlight=Burgau

All just ideas and theories as always.

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