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Post by bubblewrap on 16.07.14 9:09

Two BBC News articles are among those listed. One request was to remove a 2010 article about a child abuse trial in Portugal from the results for "Carlos Silvino". Silvino, who admitted to 639 charges relating to the abuse of children or procuring them for others, was given an 18-year sentence.

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The other request was to hide a BBC article related to a blog by economics editor Robert Peston, although the website was unclear why the article had been removed


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28311217

I have noticed a lot of search topics are being removed

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Post by BlueBag on 16.07.14 9:13

All so Winston Smith at the Ministry of Truth.

1984.

What a genius Orwell was.

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Post by Guest on 16.07.14 9:24

@BlueBag wrote:All so Winston Smith at the Ministry of Truth.

1984.

What a genius Orwell was.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/jul/17/amazon-kindle-1984

Owners of Amazon's Kindle electronic book reader have received a nasty surprise, after discovering that copies of books by George Orwell had been deleted from their gadgets without their knowledge.

The books - downloaded from Amazon.com by American Kindle users - were remotely deleted after what the US company now says was a rights issue regarding the publisher, MobileReference.com.

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Post by Rasputin on 16.07.14 9:48

Snowden claiming GCHQ have the ability to manipulate online polls Peer into Facebook users private pictures ..it seems the snoopers charter is well up and running ...it all does little to build any kind of trust / confidence .

I opted for a Nook ereader for that particular concern Clay , ...you Dont need to register with a credit card and if you wish you can by-pass the registry altogether ...my books are mine !

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Post by littlepixie on 16.07.14 11:03

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:All so Winston Smith at the Ministry of Truth.

1984.

What a genius Orwell was.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/jul/17/amazon-kindle-1984

Owners of Amazon's Kindle electronic book reader have received a nasty surprise, after discovering that copies of books by George Orwell had been deleted from their gadgets without their knowledge.

The books - downloaded from Amazon.com by American Kindle users - were remotely deleted after what the US company now says was a rights issue regarding the publisher, MobileReference.com.

Pat Browns book about the McCann case was deleted from mine after I bought it.

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Post by littlepixie on 16.07.14 11:08

@Rasputin wrote:Snowden claiming GCHQ have the ability to manipulate online polls Peer into Facebook users private pictures ..it seems the snoopers charter is well up and running ...it all does little to build any kind of trust / confidence .

I opted for a Nook ereader for that particular concern Clay , ...you Dont need to register with a credit card and if you wish you can by-pass the registry altogether ...my books are mine !

A member of the Conservative party called round the other day to offer me a leaflet. When I declined he said thanks and used my name! How did he get my name? I have always instructed the council not to sell my details from the electoral role in writing. Today I had 3 letters from UKIP addressed to 3 members of my family so our details have been sold/given without our permission.

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Post by Sonmi-451 on 16.07.14 13:59

Although not directly linked to the manipulation of Search Engine results from Google here's an example of deleted information across multiple sites that's been going on for years...

I went to Wallington County Grammar School for Boys. The headmaster whilst I was there was Ron Harrison, Some years after I left Ron was exposed (in 1990) for something and he retired suddenly, taking a redundancy payment. Within 6 months or so he'd blown all his cash on rent boys and was murdered by two of them.

The murder featured on Crimewatch. A "Crimewatch Special/Follow Up Show" sort of thing was made about it, (I think it may have been one of the first crimes they solved as a direct case of that show... the two rent-boys were angry that Ron had run out of cash, killed him and nicked his TV and someone was watching Crimewatch on that very TV and rang in giving the boys' names). I found it odd that Nick Ross never mentioned Ron was headmaster of his old school whilst presenting the show, (but then again why would he need to do so as he left years before Ron took over...although if I was in his place I'd have mentioned the indirect connection as I'm sure the viewers would have found it interesting).

Anyway, Ron was a top bloke and likeable chap.  My only 'experience' with Ron was when I had a detention aged about 14, it consisted of having my hair combed by him whilst my head was pushed into his lap. I was terribly naive (it was a boy's only school) and just thought Ron was drunk from the Brandy decanter he always had in his Headmaster's Study. I do know Ron failed to action at least one complaints of touching done by another teacher, .(witnessed one incident in the showers at the old Walcountian's Playing Fields involving a sport's master, who never wore anything under his kilt and taught us all Scottish Dancing whilst displaying his wares!, and my friend when we were in the 1st year).  Anyway, whilst Ron combed my hair he was telling me about how he knew various celebs, I recall he did lots of name-droping but sadly I cannot recall with certainty most of them. He said they'd meet around his house and I was invited to attend (and he made this very clear by keep repeating it) "on my 18th birthday!"  Looking back on it I was quite an effeminate boy and now think he was clearly hinting about the age of homosexual consent to see my response. 


So, the relevant part is...

For years if ever you mentioned Ron Harrison on ANY website it would be removed within a day or two, (I did my own experiments after my comments on Friends Reunited were removed and was amazed how efficiently all references disappeared).  When I discovered this I purposefully posted his name on a few sites, (e.g. Friends reunited several times, 'ratemyteacher', and a couple of other similar sites that may no longer be around or that I've long forgotten), simply saying what a great Headmaster he was (and nothing about his private life or my detention experience), and 'whoosh' it would disappear.  This was the case for several years... even a couple of my old schoolmates tried and found their comments disappeared too.

Someone, somewhere presumably had the necessary resources to spend on proactively searching for mentions of Ron and then having the clout (or legal backing?) to have them removed. He was simply excised from the online world.   I'd love to do some digging about him but can't find anything about him online.  Considering he was Headmaster of a school that was amongst the highest performing non-private schools in the country at the time, that he was murdered and featured on Crimewatch and a follow up Crimewatch show, I do find it unusual for at least two decades any mention of him online was eradicated within a day or two. Nowadays his name seems to appear twice online (other than my recent postings about him), one is his name against a bullet point on the school Wikipedia site, and one is a mention of him as a vice master (no pun intended!) at another school, the Haberdashers' Aske's School) 


n.b. I made a few online postings mentioning Ron over the last year about him (e.g. on You Tube) and these have remained. 

Now... This is no doubt just a case of "6 degrees of separation but I thought I'd mention it simply seems to be a small world!! 



  • Ron Harrison was Vice Master at Haberdashers' Aske's

  • Ron Harrison left to become headmaster of WCSB

  • Nick Ross went to WCSB... (though leaving before Ron became Head)

  • Nick Ross introduced the Crimewatch episode about Ron Harrison... (making no mention of the school connection) 

  • Jill Dando was a co-presenter of Nick's on Crimewatch 

  • Jill Dando was murderered (rumour had it she was investigating paedophilia)

  • Jill Dando was replaced by Fiona Bruce 

  • Fiona Bruce was an ex-pupil of Haberdashers' Aske's (possibly overlapping with Ron's time there)

  • Jill Dando's murder investigation has a link to Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe

  • Operation Grange has a link to Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe 

    I could go on, and on, and on...Nick Ross's wife (Sarah Caplin) is a former Deputy Director of the BBC and her cousin is Esther Rantzen, (the two of them founded Childline).  Sarah Caplin is reported to have befriended Kate McCAnn. 



  

The above bullets are in no way suggesting anything untoward. I'm just stating factual coincidences and how certain people seem to move in certain circles..

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Post by Sonmi-451 on 16.07.14 15:19

@bubblewrap

Yep.. I gave him the benefit of the doubt as he claims it was 'taken out of context'(!!) so I didn't mention it.  The coincidences between Crimewatch, the McCanns (also via Bridget O'Donnell and Jez Wilkins) are well recorded in this site. That Nick Ross is linked to my old school, that that school's ex-headmaster was also linked to Aske's and that Jill Dando's replacement, Fiona Bruce, also went to Aske's is something I always found strangely coincidental. 

n.b. In my original posting (that I cannot now edit) I said online traces were eradicated for 20yrs. Thinking about it that's an exaggeration... it would have been from about 1998 (when I first became an social internet user) to about 2012 that I used to notice each and every mention of Ron would be deleted from all and every website I tried to mention him in.

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Post by Sonmi-451 on 16.07.14 18:46

@ Bubblewrap

Blimey... In my haste to put thoughts to keyboard I'd forgotten about Hamish!! Thanks for the link.

 offtopic  but it's interesting to see the Kenny Noye theory about Dando. I'd never heard of that one before. By another coincidence I lived in Bexley when Noye (who lived in neighbouring Bexleyheath) killed that chap at the Swanley interchange on the M25, and my friend, (a twice Past Grand Master of the local lodge) knew Noye through his Freemasonry, (though I've just looked up Noye on Wikipedia and it says he was expelled from the 'masons by that time).  Interestingly Noye pitchforked a policeman to death but was acquitted of murder citing 'self-defense'... It just goes to show what you can get away with if you have the right connections!!!!  n.b. My friend told me a different reason behind the 'alleged' road-rage motive behind the murder of Steven Cameron ... but I fear I stray into the realms of libel!

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Post by BlueBag on 16.07.14 19:11

This is bizarre!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28331598

Whatever happened to free speech? Didn't the French give us "the enlightenment"?

How could the blogger affect the Google search engine anyway?

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Post by Sonmi-451 on 16.07.14 19:34

@ Bluebag

The internet (& sites like this) are so important for our freedom and for championing common sense and 'Common Law'. Justice that's free from the Establishment's self-serving and self-protectionist interference. Every few months new legislation (here in the UK and across the world), is proposed, and often passes, that restricts, inhibits and suppresses this freedom of speech and expression.  Every time repressive laws are proposed online petitions are instigated. Most of my friends think like me, but only a few bother to add their names to the petition(s).  If we are not careful we'll see the basic freedoms that enable sites such as this to exist being slowly, and quietly, and insidiously 'snuffed out'.  If this French ruling goes unchallenged another precedent, in yet another country, will be set... it's freedom's demise via an orchestrated 'punishment' of 'death by a thousand cuts'.

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Post by Guest on 16.07.14 20:18

@Sonmi-451 wrote:@ Bluebag

The internet (& sites like this) are so important for our freedom and for championing common sense and 'Common Law'. Justice that's free from the Establishment's self-serving and self-protectionist interference. Every few months new legislation (here in the UK and across the world), is proposed, and often passes, that restricts, inhibits and suppresses this freedom of speech and expression.  Every time repressive laws are proposed online petitions are instigated. Most of my friends think like me, but only a few bother to add their names to the petition(s).  If we are not careful we'll see the basic freedoms that enable sites such as this to exist being slowly, and quietly, and insidiously 'snuffed out'.  If this French ruling goes unchallenged another precedent, in yet another country, will be set... it's freedom's demise via an orchestrated 'punishment' of 'death by a thousand cuts'.

This is why we need to be vigilant against knee jerk reactions against, say, the unsubstantiated claims that Rolf Harris downloaded child pornography. I'm sure these things are slipped in there with the expectation that the Daily Hate reading pitchfork mob will demand more regulation of the internet.

In recent days I've been wondering if perhaps Sally Bercow "took one for the team".

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Post by bubblewrap on 16.07.14 20:33

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@Sonmi-451 wrote:@ Bluebag

The internet (& sites like this) are so important for our freedom and for championing common sense and 'Common Law'. Justice that's free from the Establishment's self-serving and self-protectionist interference. Every few months new legislation (here in the UK and across the world), is proposed, and often passes, that restricts, inhibits and suppresses this freedom of speech and expression.  Every time repressive laws are proposed online petitions are instigated. Most of my friends think like me, but only a few bother to add their names to the petition(s).  If we are not careful we'll see the basic freedoms that enable sites such as this to exist being slowly, and quietly, and insidiously 'snuffed out'.  If this French ruling goes unchallenged another precedent, in yet another country, will be set... it's freedom's demise via an orchestrated 'punishment' of 'death by a thousand cuts'.

This is why we need to be vigilant against knee jerk reactions against, say, the unsubstantiated claims that Rolf Harris downloaded child pornography. I'm sure these things are slipped in there with the expectation that the Daily Hate reading pitchfork mob will demand more regulation of the internet.

In recent days I've been wondering if perhaps Sally Bercow "took one for the team".

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Post by Sonmi-451 on 16.07.14 22:36

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@Sonmi-451 wrote:@ Bluebag

The internet (& sites like this) are so important for our freedom and for championing common sense and 'Common Law'. Justice that's free from the Establishment's self-serving and self-protectionist interference. Every few months new legislation (here in the UK and across the world), is proposed, and often passes, that restricts, inhibits and suppresses this freedom of speech and expression.  Every time repressive laws are proposed online petitions are instigated. Most of my friends think like me, but only a few bother to add their names to the petition(s).  If we are not careful we'll see the basic freedoms that enable sites such as this to exist being slowly, and quietly, and insidiously 'snuffed out'.  If this French ruling goes unchallenged another precedent, in yet another country, will be set... it's freedom's demise via an orchestrated 'punishment' of 'death by a thousand cuts'.

This is why we need to be vigilant against knee jerk reactions against, say, the unsubstantiated claims that Rolf Harris downloaded child pornography. I'm sure these things are slipped in there with the expectation that the Daily Hate reading pitchfork mob will demand more regulation of the internet.

In recent days I've been wondering if perhaps Sally Bercow "took one for the team".
Hear Hear!!

Bear in mind most of the crimes 'outed' and currently circulating in the MSM pre-date the internet

and then...

Bear in mind that most (almost all?) of the momentum and impetus for 'investigation' has originated onlne (e.g. J. Savile/C. Smith/L. Brittan, et al) have been circulating online for well over a decade...

Then this suggests that INCREASING online freedom will serve those who have been, and are being, abused and mistreated... and NOT curtailing this tool of open, online, democracy!!

Anyone who advocates any form of 'regulation' (aka 'suppression') of the internet is either (a) sadly, woefully, ignorant, or (b) an active part of the 'Establishment Problem' the rest of us have to suffer on a daily basis.

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Post by mouse on 16.07.14 23:03

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@Sonmi-451 wrote:@ Bluebag

The internet (& sites like this) are so important for our freedom and for championing common sense and 'Common Law'. Justice that's free from the Establishment's self-serving and self-protectionist interference. Every few months new legislation (here in the UK and across the world), is proposed, and often passes, that restricts, inhibits and suppresses this freedom of speech and expression.  Every time repressive laws are proposed online petitions are instigated. Most of my friends think like me, but only a few bother to add their names to the petition(s).  If we are not careful we'll see the basic freedoms that enable sites such as this to exist being slowly, and quietly, and insidiously 'snuffed out'.  If this French ruling goes unchallenged another precedent, in yet another country, will be set... it's freedom's demise via an orchestrated 'punishment' of 'death by a thousand cuts'.

This is why we need to be vigilant against knee jerk reactions against, say, the unsubstantiated claims that Rolf Harris downloaded child pornography. I'm sure these things are slipped in there with the expectation that the Daily Hate reading pitchfork mob will demand more regulation of the internet.

In recent days I've been wondering if perhaps Sally Bercow "took one for the team".
I believe he did download, (I believe it was actually mentioned at the end of his trial in court) but these charges were dropped because of the more serious charges that he was found guilty of, a bit like concurrent sentencing. 

Though I'm totally with you against more regulation of the internet. I'm Sure G McCann would love it but I'm against anything that stops free speech. If we lose that we're done for.

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Post by tigger on 17.07.14 6:39

I don't know who said that you can only have a democracy with an educated population.

Imo Blair and co  giving the voters bread and games whilst taking away what education there was were attempting to achieve the dumbing down of the country. That was 1997, this is now.
What with Big Brother making it the nation's ambition to be chosen and turning all those watching into peeping Toms and many leaving school unable to read or write and certainly not numerate, New Labour seems to have succeeded.

Re the 'Cleansing of the internet'  and Bercow, it's quite possible they used her tweet and the subsequent attempt to take all twitterers to court  to test  the mechanics of such a move.

I shall never forget the form to be filled in by all those who had sinned against McAlpine. It seemed to me to be put together by a two-bit solicitor, although the information demanded (in return for a £ 50,00 fine instead of the threat of legal action iirc) was well over and above that needed. About the only information not required was one's shoe size.

Even though it sank without trace and the 'trial' of the celebrity hungry Sally  will never take place due to Lord Mc dying rather suddenly, I feel the data collected may well have been of great use to e.g. editorial Intelligence and Common Purpose.

O yes, almost forgot, the penitents who did pay were comforted by the promise that the money would go to a charity. Useful institutions charities  nah

Btw: You've all cheered me up no end! This is a brilliant discussion. roses 

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